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by SPEEDRACER30 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:11 am

I ordered my wheel spacers from MarkMC in the 6x5.0 flavor, and while I know hub-centric wheels can be a bit "tight", mine are ridiculously tight. Like when torqued down it is shaving aluminum off of my stock wheels! Anybody else encounter this problem from Mark's spacers, or am I just lucky? :scratch:
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by DirtyBacon04 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:50 am

are you still running stock hubs? Ive never heard of that issue with marks parts. I'd contact him to verify.
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by Moots1288 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:26 pm

SPEEDRACER30 wrote:I ordered my wheel spacers from MarkMC in the 6x5.0 flavor, and while I know hub-centric wheels can be a bit "tight", mine are ridiculously tight. Like when torqued down it is shaving aluminum off of my stock wheels! Anybody else encounter this problem from Mark's spacers, or am I just lucky? :scratch:
I had that problem as well with stock wheels, I filled the inside of the wheel down slightly and the some grease and it was ok. I had to kick the shit out of my wheel to get it off
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by SPEEDRACER30 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:42 pm

Moots1288 wrote:
SPEEDRACER30 wrote:I ordered my wheel spacers from MarkMC in the 6x5.0 flavor, and while I know hub-centric wheels can be a bit "tight", mine are ridiculously tight. Like when torqued down it is shaving aluminum off of my stock wheels! Anybody else encounter this problem from Mark's spacers, or am I just lucky? :scratch:
I had that problem as well with stock wheels, I filled the inside of the wheel down slightly and the some grease and it was ok. I had to kick the shit out of my wheel to get it off


Yeah I had the spacers installed with the lift and stock tires and he said it would be hell to get the tires off. The tire shop had two guys taking turns kicking the shit out of them to get them off. Think I will call MarkMC before I start shaving metal off the wheels though. I thought this may be a pretty common issue but couldn't find much on it.
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by mikekey » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:54 pm

Never heard of that, you have stock wheels, correct?
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by Moots1288 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:58 pm

mikekey wrote:Never heard of that, you have stock wheels, correct?
It happened to me. But with a little grease on the hub it was fine.
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by SPEEDRACER30 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:18 pm

mikekey wrote:Never heard of that, you have stock wheels, correct?


Yes. Stock 17" LTZ wheels.
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by PapaBear229 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:25 pm

SPEEDRACER30 wrote:
mikekey wrote:Never heard of that, you have stock wheels, correct?


Yes. Stock 17" LTZ wheels.


Happened to me too i have the same rims as you also. Might just be something with those rims.
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by SPEEDRACER30 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:33 pm

Sounds like this is pretty common for some, so I am not going to worry about it until they get rotated. Sounds like a bit of grease or slight filing might be warranted. Maybe just filing a slight bevel in the back side of the wheel might keep it from dragging on the spacer a bit.
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by Trail X » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:39 pm

Sounds like Mark needs to tighten up that bore a bit on the spacer. The lip isn't supposed to take any real stress, only provide an alignment guide so the wheel's weight isn't sitting on the studs upon install.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:00 am

Sounds pretty //// far from common.
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by Regulator1175 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:04 am

Here's an idea, set your truck on fire. It is the best solution! Oh, and way to support your vendor's James. One complaint and no one cares about the hundreds of satisfied customers he has!

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by hotness » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:05 am

Far from common. Do some research first.
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by v7guy » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:25 am

Sounds like they're a bit oversized. At the proper size (from my experience) they should fit snug, with some anti sieze the wheel should come off with little difficulty. They definitely shouldn't be shaving aluminum off.

There has been a mix up with Marks wheel studs recently. Maybe his machinist is getting lazy.


I'd contact Mark, he's well known for having amazing customer service.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:13 am

DirtyBacon04 wrote:are you still running stock hubs? Ive never heard of that issue with marks parts. I'd contact him to verify.

Been wondering why hubs matter since they are not part of the issue...
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by Trail X » Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:59 am

Regulator1175 wrote:Here's an idea, set your truck on fire. It is the best solution! Oh, and way to support your vendor's James. One complaint and no one cares about the hundreds of satisfied customers he has!

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I don't think I threw anyone under the bus here... didn't say anything about him being a bad vendor. I deal with stuff like this every week at work. Sometimes you get a tolerance overlap, where the tolerance on the OEM wheel is larger than you originally think, and therefore the tolerance on the machined lip overlaps that of the wheel. It's very hard to do a tolerance stackup when you don't know the true total tolerance on the mating part. Once in a blue moon you find a set that doesn't properly mount up, which means there is a tolerance overlap on the extreme edge of the stack. The fix is either tightening the tolerance on the bore, or moving the median value in some. It's not a big deal, and it happens in every production environment.

I've got no problem with Mark, and actually reccommend his kits fairly often when I'm talking to new members.
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by Cable810 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:21 pm

SPEEDRACER30 wrote:
mikekey wrote:Never heard of that, you have stock wheels, correct?


Yes. Stock 17" LTZ wheels.


Have the same wheels and marks spacers and didn't have an issue. Granit I didn't install them.
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by Dammann35 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:26 pm

I have the same problem with stock 16in wheels but it does affect anything. I just have to hit the back side of my tire with a hammer when I take them off.
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by SPEEDRACER30 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:05 am

Well I guess at bare minimum I will let Mark know about the minor issue so the mold can be checked. Either way it is not that big of an issue. They still work fine and serve their purpose that they were intended for and I am still impressed with Mark's products. Didn't mean to open a can of worms.
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by v7guy » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:56 am

I'd give Mark a hollar and let him know, it would be helpful if you could provide inside measurements of the wheel and of the spacers lip. The more accurate the better. With that said I'm sure the measurement tools aren't readily available to a lot of guys.
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