Offroad Trailblazers and Envoys

Bad cv axle after lifted

BDS, ReadyLift, Smaxx... You name it, we know about it here.

by darring70 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:03 am

Hello everybody I have a problem and maybe one of you guys can help me, I lifted my TB about 3 weeks ago approx in less than a week I noticed that the driver side CV axle had a lot of grease around and when I asked my mechanic he told me I need to replace the axle, now the passenges side went bad with the same problem, I never change tha acles before so my question is:
- Because I lifted my truck 3" should I get just the regular OEM Cv Axle or it have to be diferent due to the lift?
I went to an offroad place and they told me I shoud buy a CV axle with a soft boot but they are basicaly the same size is oly the boot, they want to charge me $550 to replace it and that is a lot of money compair to the regular guy that I go he is charging me $130 each.

Any suggestions please

:flex dirty: :camping: :safari:
User avatar
darring70
Trail-Blazer
 
Posts: 291
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:47 am
Location: NJ - Fair Lawn
Name: Darring
Vehicle Year: Other
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80
Rank: Trail Ready

by TangoBravo » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:59 am

Cardone cv's from rock auto are very cheap but hold up great. Its what most of the lifted guys run. I replace my own so IDK what labor should be, I had two CV's shipped to my house for about $100. Also get large hose clamps and put them on the end of the boots. If you dont this wont be the last time your going to need to repair/replace them
Scouts Out, Carbon County Search and Rescue/Carbon County volunteer firefighter.

Ams oil products bumper to bumper, Treadwright Guard Dogs, 3 inch suspension lift, 3 inch body lift 1.5" spacers, swaybar trashcan mod, quad headlight mod
User avatar
TangoBravo
Addict
 
Posts: 652
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:57 pm
Location: Hanna Wy
Name: Robert
Vehicle Year: 2004
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD
Rank: Trail Ready

by darring70 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:05 am

TangoBravo wrote:Cardone cv's from rock auto are very cheap but hold up great. Its what most of the lifted guys run. I replace my own so IDK what labor should be, I had two CV's shipped to my house for about $100. Also get large hose clamps and put them on the end of the boots. If you dont this wont be the last time your going to need to repair/replace them



Do they have a web page or something that I can buy it online? :flex dirty:
User avatar
darring70
Trail-Blazer
 
Posts: 291
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:47 am
Location: NJ - Fair Lawn
Name: Darring
Vehicle Year: Other
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80
Rank: Trail Ready

by chevycrew » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:28 am

User avatar
chevycrew
Veteran
 
Posts: 1088
Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:42 pm
Location: UT, Salt Lake City
Name: Steve
Vehicle Year: 2002
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD
Rank: Trail Ready

by darring70 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:39 am

Thanks
User avatar
darring70
Trail-Blazer
 
Posts: 291
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:47 am
Location: NJ - Fair Lawn
Name: Darring
Vehicle Year: Other
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80
Rank: Trail Ready

by HARDTRAILZ » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:33 am

I did not like the Cardone ones. The fancy boots were weak. I like just a stock reman cv. I have had good luck with Detroit Axle on Ebay.
I hate to advocate weird chemicals, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone...but
they've always worked for me.
User avatar
HARDTRAILZ
Moderator
 
Posts: 6342
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:49 am
Location: IN, Batesville
Name: Kyle
Vehicle Year: 2006
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ Aftermarket Locker
Rank: Extreme Offroader

by Cable810 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:59 am

I got the cardones from Summit racing for $109 shipped to my door. I think It was cheaper than Rock Auto. My shop replaced both axles plus replacing the front diff seal for like 150. It cost me like $240-$260 when everything was said and done. Also when you get the new axles in make sure to put hose clamps on the boots other wise they will leak again.
The FIRST Solid Axle Swapped Trailblazer in Presque Isle County MI
My Build
The Roadie wrote:Research, plan your mods, fund the plan, then GO DO THEM. THEN WHEEL IT.
User avatar
Cable810
Veteran
 
Posts: 1989
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:43 pm
Location: MI, Rogers City
Name: Caleb
Vehicle Year: 2002
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ Aftermarket Locker
Rank: Offroad Rated

by The Roadie » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:08 am

Hey, Kyle - do you also replace the boot strap with a hose clamp on your remans?

Welcome, Darring. I'm not sure anybody's lift kit instructions recommend using hose clamps on the CV boot, but in our experience, they all should. Whose lift did you go with? You could get out of this for under $10 - no need to swap CV axles yet, or pay for the offroad shop's kid to go through dental school. What brand CV axle or replacement boot were they pitching to you?
User avatar
The Roadie
Founder
 
Posts: 5011
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:29 pm
Location: OR, Portland area
Name: Bill Carton
Vehicle Year: 2004
Vehicle: GMC Envoy
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80
Rank: Expedition Guide

by darring70 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:28 am

The Roadie wrote:Hey, Kyle - do you also replace the boot strap with a hose clamp on your remans?

Welcome, Darring. I'm not sure anybody's lift kit instructions recommend using hose clamps on the CV boot, but in our experience, they all should. Whose lift did you go with? You could get out of this for under $10 - no need to swap CV axles yet, or pay for the offroad shop's kid to go through dental school. What brand CV axle or replacement boot were they pitching to you?


I have a 3" lift from supreme suspensions they are pretty good, the off road place did not tell me the brand thats why I did not like it, I think I can have better information here.
BTW guys thanks for all the info, I guess I just gonna fill up the boots and clamp it.


:flex dirty: :safari:
User avatar
darring70
Trail-Blazer
 
Posts: 291
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:47 am
Location: NJ - Fair Lawn
Name: Darring
Vehicle Year: Other
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80
Rank: Trail Ready

by HARDTRAILZ » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:12 am

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-Trailblaz ... 1015141999

Just another copy of the old style lift.


Roadie- I have not clamped them. I did have to when the cardone boot would not stay in place, but so far so good on these staying in place without clamps. I never needed to clamp my stockers either.
I hate to advocate weird chemicals, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone...but
they've always worked for me.
User avatar
HARDTRAILZ
Moderator
 
Posts: 6342
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:49 am
Location: IN, Batesville
Name: Kyle
Vehicle Year: 2006
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ Aftermarket Locker
Rank: Extreme Offroader

by darring70 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:31 am

Do you mean that lift is not good?
User avatar
darring70
Trail-Blazer
 
Posts: 291
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:47 am
Location: NJ - Fair Lawn
Name: Darring
Vehicle Year: Other
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80
Rank: Trail Ready

by darring70 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:40 am

darring70 wrote:Do you mean that lift is not good?


My plan is to buy a body lift in a couple of months so I can have a total of 6" lift, i know what I bought is a leveling kit
User avatar
darring70
Trail-Blazer
 
Posts: 291
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:47 am
Location: NJ - Fair Lawn
Name: Darring
Vehicle Year: Other
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80
Rank: Trail Ready

by navigator » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:55 am

it is similar to the 2.5" MarkMC lift.
A lot of folks run that style lift.
I think the biggest weakness is it re-uses the upper mount.

A bigger concern would be if you ran an outside the strut spacer lift.
"Please consider a search before posting. Folks on this site PIONEERED functional offroad use of these trucks."
The answer to many common lift questions can be found
here
My Build Thread
User avatar
navigator
Moderator
 
Posts: 4651
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:16 am
Location: NC, Winnabow
Name: Chris
Vehicle Year: 2006
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD
Rank: Trail Ready

by darring70 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:20 pm

What set up u have?
User avatar
darring70
Trail-Blazer
 
Posts: 291
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:47 am
Location: NJ - Fair Lawn
Name: Darring
Vehicle Year: Other
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80
Rank: Trail Ready

by navigator » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:30 pm

I have a RC with a top spacer similar to yours.
I have a link to my build thread in my signature but I'll need to update soon.
"Please consider a search before posting. Folks on this site PIONEERED functional offroad use of these trucks."
The answer to many common lift questions can be found
here
My Build Thread
User avatar
navigator
Moderator
 
Posts: 4651
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:16 am
Location: NC, Winnabow
Name: Chris
Vehicle Year: 2006
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD
Rank: Trail Ready

by HARDTRAILZ » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:05 pm

I had your style lift and then went to the one piece style lift. Both work well, but after some decent wheeling I did break both upper mounts with your style lift.
I hate to advocate weird chemicals, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone...but
they've always worked for me.
User avatar
HARDTRAILZ
Moderator
 
Posts: 6342
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:49 am
Location: IN, Batesville
Name: Kyle
Vehicle Year: 2006
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ Aftermarket Locker
Rank: Extreme Offroader

by v7guy » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:43 am

The axles are about $50 each.
The boots generally slip off when lifted.
Most the companies seem to have transitioned to a 3 rib boot instead of the old 4 rib boot. The result is that even when clamped the boots eventually rip. They last longer with less lift, but in my case they frequently self destruct in less than a month (admittedly my truck is stupid high).

The cv that Kyle reccommends has a neoprene boot and that may be key. If I can't source a neoprene boot I may very well get one of those remans. I have a thread "cv that stays together" that might be interesting reading for you.

As far as the lift goes, I prefer the 3" lift markmc offers, it's one piece and the replacment bushings are $10. It's probably the most robust design to date.
build thread

All things in moderation, including moderation.
Some people never go crazy... what truly horrible lives they must lead
User avatar
v7guy
Moderator
 
Posts: 3712
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:17 pm
Location: NY, long island
Name: Jason
Vehicle Year: 2004
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD
Rank: Offroad Rated

by darring70 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:24 am

I finally fixed my axles, like you guys said I re-filled with grease and I put clamps (hose clamps) looks like is working fine.
Thanks guys
User avatar
darring70
Trail-Blazer
 
Posts: 291
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:47 am
Location: NJ - Fair Lawn
Name: Darring
Vehicle Year: Other
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80
Rank: Trail Ready

by prepper1212 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:41 pm

i just lifted my tb last saturday and today i noticed the grease comming out both inner boots. i have only driven it 40 miles so far/ if i understand this right ,this is normal after a lift ( marks 2.5 ) and if i refill with grease and swap out the clamps i should be ok ?
2004 ls 4x4 2.5 marks lift 255/70/16 Firestone destination at
prepper1212
Cruiser
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:30 pm
Location: south east ga
Name: kevin
Vehicle Year: 2004
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD

by djthumper » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:35 pm

How much grease did you lose? Put new hose claps on there and you will be fine.
User avatar
djthumper
Moderator
 
Posts: 2702
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:04 pm
Location: NV, Las Vegas
Name: Larry
Vehicle Year: 2006
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD
Rank: Offroad Rated

Next

Return to Lifts / Suspension

cron