Front Springs Moog 81114 or 89s ?

[navigator]

are they installed yet? We need pics and a report on how they ride!

[snowmirage]

Fish I'll get those for you tomorrow about to head to bed and I'm honestly to lazy to go out to the truck and dig out my tape measure at the moment

No they are far from installed yet. But unless I develop amnesia I do here by promise to post details when I do )

If anyone in the area wants to give me a hand and a place to work it'll get done sooner

[Trail X]

Unless you don't check your phone first... I'm available Sunday.

[snowmirage]

Springs are in thanks to James for all the help (btw ....Dam was it hot Sunday!)

To review now sitting on....

MarkMC original Liftmeister 2.5" lift all the way around

And now new Moog 81114 springs in the front

and the Z71 Tahoe springs in the back.


Here's a side by side of the front springs ( I think you can guess which one is the NEW moog spring)




When I first installed the lift last year (same lift and tires factory springs)


Taken this afternoon (same lift and tires new springs listed above)


Measurements

(F=Front B=Back L=Left R=Right)

These are measured from ground to top of wheel well arch through center of wheel. It wasn't really level when I took either measurement but I think this is pretty close. I also had about 150-200lbs (guessing here) of tools etc (steel spare on my tire carrier) in the back of my truck.

BEFORE AFTER
FL 36 7/8 37
FR 36 5/8 37 1/2
BL 35 3/8 36 3/4
BR 34 1/2 37 1/2


Both sets of springs had a 17mm coil diameter

The stock springs I had are 9 coils and 405 mm long

The moog 81114 springs where right about 10 and 1/4 coils by comparison and just about 15mm longer (420mm)


I currently have no extra weight on the front of my truck but will have MDB Rad and oil pan skids once they get shipped but as it sits now we measure about 1/2 an inch of down travel.


The ride is STIFF! I don't mind it but if I had been given the choice for the same price I would have gone with something with a little bit more give. I think I'll get used to it as time goes on and they'll settle in a bit. There is very little body roll (if any) taking corners at speed which is nice (and a little odd feeling) but there's also not a lot of give when you hit a bump. I think its stiff enough that a friend who had been in my car on a regular basis would notice after the first big bump (think of a moderate speed bump without slowing down below ~20mph). I remember when I first bought the TB thinking it felt like an old Cadillac kind of bouncy / floaty (part of that was rear shocks that were on their last leg) and over time I've just gotten used to it. I think if it road this way when I first bought it I would have just thought "hey its stiff, well ya sure its a truck not a minivan". Hopefully that gives you some idea how this feel so far at least in my opinion.

It is noticeably higher off the ground (my seat of the pants feel not so much the measurements) I almost trip a bit jumping up into it now with the extra inch or so.

Overall I'm very happy, the Z71's in the back are a godsend, I was sagging BAD with all that stuff in the back (even worse at TECORE last month...) this solved that and then some.

Now.... I really really really need to get this thing out onto the beach!

[snowmirage]

Just took a look at that new pic and then a look at the truck outside.... I think I'm higher in the front now than the rear.... lol hmm might have to do something about that someday.

[Trail X]

Just took a look at that new pic and then a look at the truck outside.... I think I'm higher in the front now than the rear.... lol hmm might have to do something about that someday.

Your new steel up front will help things. Plus the front springs will settle in some more.

No body roll eh? Maybe time to get rid of one of the swaybars.

[JCrayton99]

I got one of the other sets, Im hoping with the new springs Ill gain a little height back. Sway bars are working on being removed. Limiting straps for the rear are on their way, and I want to get registered and inspected in CT before I remove the front. I dont think there is a way to put it back on. If I ever get an issue I think Ill make a 'dummy' front sway bar.

[janesy86]

Jason, keep the front sway bar, ditch the rear. Front is nice on the road, really does the majority of the work. So maybe go with discos up front for trails, but thats just me.

[snowmirage]

Jason, keep the front sway bar, ditch the rear. Front is nice on the road, really does the majority of the work. So maybe go with discos up front for trails, but thats just me.

I probably would have disconnected my rear before TECORE a few months ago but I'm waiting till I get my MD inspection and such just to avoid any potential issues.

[Cody_S]

Just out of curiosity, how did the Moog springs end up settling in? Does the front end still seem to be higher?

[HARDTRAILZ]

Anyone using the 114 have a comparison to the 88s? I was thinking about swapping mine from 88s to 114, but not sure its worth the effort and not looking to loose height.