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by dvanbramer88 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:11 pm

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Maple Beach, Bristol PA, winter 2010-2011
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My old bumper with air deflector, just a waste of ground clearence
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(Taken prior to any of Josh's off road modifications) this winter probably inspired most of them
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by DirtyBacon04 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:45 am

fishsticks wrote:I got to test out my new radiator skid on this one... it passed.




Craptastic cell phone camera.



Where did you get the skid plate and what kind is it? Much appreciated.
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by DirtyBacon04 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:55 am

fishsticks wrote:My buddy Chris always seems to pass up the fun trails. I got out and took the pic while waiting for him to turn around.

He's a terrible photographer...usually takes video of the ground. I need new friends. :P

Here's the top of the hill once he finally showed back up.

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Someone move closer to me so all my shots don't have to be posers. :oops:



Hey im new to this site, but am lookin for some sweet trails. Where is this picture taken?
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by Trail X » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:23 am

Hitmanofheaven wrote:Where did you get the skid plate and what kind is it? Much appreciated.

If I recall, Donny made his own. However it would do you well to read through the vendor section - especially the Armory.
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by DirtyBacon04 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:13 pm

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This was very early in my ownership

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This was just last month up by HolyJim

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The black section on the bumper is actully Herculiner. Alot of time and work went into it, and i've since had to remove said bumper due to necessity.

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Anybody have any products in mind that would prevent a boulder from doin this to my baby again?!
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by Trail X » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:39 pm

Hitmanofheaven wrote:Anybody have any products in mind that would prevent a boulder from doin this to my baby again?!

Rock sliders. viewforum.php?f=28
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by wink » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:00 pm

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Wheeling in the New Mexico desert.

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Stuck in the New Mexico desert.

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Mud bath.
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by Trail X » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:32 am

That thing looks ready for the zombie apocalypse! I love it!
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by BSalty » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:19 pm

:Iagree: That is a hot looking rig.

After looking at some of your guys bumpers, are you just sacrificing a WAAG bar and welding them onto your steel bumpers?
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by HARDTRAILZ » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:10 pm

Not sure any are Waag, but yes they are sacraficing a brushguard.
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by Trail X » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:51 am

Mine was fabbed from scratch, but partially followed the WAAG silhouette.
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by Diacom » Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:45 pm

This is the brand I had shipped to bartonmd.

http://www.truckgeardirect.com/?ITEMID=GC-805

Price is up a bit since I ordered mine. Though not enough I wouldn't consider ordering another when I do the BL and order my replacement bumper.
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by dvanbramer88 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:07 am

navigator wrote:Roadie, on your buddy and his terrible mileage, that could be gearing.
Those XJ's usually come stock with about a 28 inch tire, if they go up to 31s, they recommend
at a 4.10 gear ratio to just get back close to stock. They also have about 100 less hp than we do.




yes, 180 hp, you guys have 265? but the torque in those 4.0 I6 is ridiculous. My mom drives one and i can safley say its faster than your TB, it has balls and is geared really low.

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by HARDTRAILZ » Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:18 am

dvanbramer88 wrote:
navigator wrote:Roadie, on your buddy and his terrible mileage, that could be gearing.
Those XJ's usually come stock with about a 28 inch tire, if they go up to 31s, they recommend
at a 4.10 gear ratio to just get back close to stock. They also have about 100 less hp than we do.




yes, 180 hp, you guys have 265? but the torque in those 4.0 I6 is ridiculous. My mom drives one and i can safley say its faster than your TB, it has balls and is geared really low.


290 hp factory. I have driven dozens of 4.0 and they dont compare in hp or torque.

The jeep guys are always jealous of my power and torque on the trails. I will gladly run mine against your moms 4.0.
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by The Roadie » Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:26 am

dvanbramer88 wrote:
yes, 180 hp, you guys have 265? but the torque in those 4.0 I6 is ridiculous. My mom drives one and i can safley say its faster than your TB, it has balls and is geared really low.


What year XJ was that?

4WD specifications 1990 1992 1997
I6 power 177 @ 4500 190 @ 4,750 190 @ 4,600
I6 torque 224 @ 2500 225 @ 4,000 225 @ 3,000

Our LL8 I6 engine

4WD specifications 2002 2003 2006
I6 power 270 @ 6000 275 @ 6000 291 @ 6000
I6 torque 275 @ 3600 275 @ 3600 277 @ 4800


But we do have a curb weight around 4600 lbs, where the XJ is around 3000-3200? Yes, you can heavily modify and wheel an XJ. We're handicapped by lugging around this otherwise useless baggage of a frame. :roll:

An apples to oranges discussion really isn't a Rig Shot subject. Or anything we do a lot of in ORTB, for obvious reasons.
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by dvanbramer88 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:13 pm

The Roadie wrote:
dvanbramer88 wrote:
yes, 180 hp, you guys have 265? but the torque in those 4.0 I6 is ridiculous. My mom drives one and i can safley say its faster than your TB, it has balls and is geared really low.


What year XJ was that?

4WD specifications 1990 1992 1997
I6 power 177 @ 4500 190 @ 4,750 190 @ 4,600
I6 torque 224 @ 2500 225 @ 4,000 225 @ 3,000

Our LL8 I6 engine

4WD specifications 2002 2003 2006
I6 power 270 @ 6000 275 @ 6000 291 @ 6000
I6 torque 275 @ 3600 275 @ 3600 277 @ 4800


But we do have a curb weight around 4600 lbs, where the XJ is around 3000-3200? Yes, you can heavily modify and wheel an XJ. We're handicapped by lugging around this otherwise useless baggage of a frame. :roll:

An apples to oranges discussion really isn't a Rig Shot subject. Or anything we do a lot of in ORTB, for obvious reasons.



It wasn't really meant as an apple to apple thing, but more of a different point of view. the boss' kid mentioned hates it bc of power and mileage. I love my mom's jeep and think its a torque house. I've also driven josh's 2002 TB and it's just not the same. It is powerful indeed but you certainty feel the weight, The XJ in question is a 2000 Sport 4X4. 3200lbs is correct. Also the jeep has pretty low gearing along the entire power train, not just the rear gears, if you take your foot off the gas at 65 in my moms jeep, its slows down, hard.. My truck just rolls for a while before even starting to slow, i know i'm doing the comparison thing again, but its more to better understand my example, but they do indeed get pretty poor milage, 19 city 22 highway. Although still better than my P/U.

and i've always loved Cherokee's. We had a 92' when i was a kid, my dad ordered it from the factory with beefier suspension and towing package. It matched my truck's towing specs, We used to wheel the hell out of that thing too, i would be strapped in a car seat laughing my head off as my dad beat the hell out of it, Our newer one just isn't the same, but both do/did have solid front axles and dana drive shafts and posi rears from the factory.
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by BSalty » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:18 pm

The Roadie wrote:
But we do have a curb weight around 4600 lbs, where the XJ is around 3000-3200?



I weighed mine at work. I am under 4k lbs. empty. (Ok it had a 1/3 tank of fuel) it was 3900 and change. Its a DOT scale and needs to be calibrated w/in +/-0.5% or some such thing.
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by Black EXT » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:44 pm

Mall RATED!! ahaha

At Titanium La Portada with my custom bumper!

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by fishsticks » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:23 am

Fort to Sea Trail near Gearhart, OR.

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by MrSmithsTB » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:13 pm

Escalade wheels? Surely!
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