Removing Front Swaybar

[janesy86]

High speed isn't too bad like Kyle mentioned. You can tell your disco'ed but as long as your not being an idiot its not too bad. I'm in no rush to get it connected and I frequently am on the highway. Meant to add that in that post as well.

[TSAdventurez]

Is there any added height benifit or decrease by removing it other than just the weight factor?

[bgwolfpack]

Is there any added height benifit or decrease by removing it other than just the weight factor?

No.

Height does not factor in when considering they fall below the springs relationship to the vehicle itself. Their removal only helps the ability of the suspensions travel.

[v7guy]

The only negative is that now my tires travel up more and hit the bumper. Gotta trim more... not even sure if you can call that a negative.
Have a couple hundred miles on it now, I don't think im connecting it again.

[HARDTRAILZ]

Is there any added height benifit or decrease by removing it other than just the weight factor?

As stated height is nothing, but trying to figure out how you think this is removal is for weight?

[TSAdventurez]

I know that by removing it we get more suspension travel. Less weight is just a plus I removed the bar and every thing it's I good amount of less weight on the front.

[bgwolfpack]

I disconnected the front and drove on road yesterday about 75 miles of freeway and back roads. I think the payback for off road articulation may be worth it although there is a real difference on the street such as body lean and lack of a crisp turn-in to corners. Overall not bad.

I may reconnect mine just for the fact it's so damn easy to unbolt already. If your off road and want it disconnected you'd better already have an 7mm Allen and 21mm wrench with you.

Easy and sounds like a winning hand to me.

Edit: IMO, I would not remove the rear bar unless the truck was for off road use only.

Just cleaning up after spending the last few minutes outside in 28 degree weather reattaching the rear sway bar on my TB. Got a bee up my butt yesterday after reading (again) the threads on driving without front/rear bars. I've had the front unhooked for many months and really like the feel of how it drives better then when it's hooked up. The suspension seems much free'er with the front unhooked with more steering feel on the road aside from the travel it allows while off road. So, removing the rear sway bar should only add to the enjoyment of the driving experience correct? Holy Crap, what a stupid move.

I didn't take the rear bar off, just unbolted it and zip tied the arm out of the way. You'd think after driving 22 of the 44 miles I drive each night to martial arts practice, I'd think to hook it back up while there but no I don't think that way I guess.

I need to read my own posts as well.

We need a 'Why did I do That!' Thread. At least I do.

[janesy86]

I've been driving for a month now (about 1500 miles or so) without either connected. Not too bad at all, to me atleast.

[bgwolfpack]

I've been driving for a month now (about 1500 miles or so) without either connected. Not too bad at all, to me atleast.

The locker may make a huge difference for you Nick. Mine, without a G80, wants to spin the rear inside tire on almost any turn at any speed. Having bald tires doesn't help. Heavy back end also adds to the frustration.

Glad it works for you.

[janesy86]

Well I would reconnect the front, just need to pick up another quick disco pin. Haven't been able to find any around me. But I hear you, it is very noticable, so I'm a bit more cautious with highway driving, but have never felt uncomfortable yet, so its not a priority to hook it back up at the moment.

[Trail X]

True story... Michelin was adopted the tire supplier for UPS trucks.

When UPS first adopted them, they noticed a decrease in their fleet fuel economy.

Michelin was sure it was not their tires that were the fault, so they had to investigate.

Turns out, their tires had better grip than what UPS had previously had, which gave the drivers more confidence to go faster.

Solution? UPS ended up removing their swaybars to reduce the driver's feeling of confidence, and slow them down. No real increased danger in removing the swaybar... just gives it a funny feeling.

Not sure if UPS ever added them back in, but I know the above story was true at one time.

[bgwolfpack]

Cool story James.

No real increased danger in removing the swaybar... just gives it a funny feeling.

I don't believe it's just as safe though.


Who else has tried this for road driving? What were your impressions?
Would be an interesting poll.

[HARDTRAILZ]

No swaybars was not bad at all. Just drive a bit slower in corners and get used to body lean. Spent a whole winter and some other occasions sans bars and it was ok.

[navigator]

sounds like a mythbusters project to me, which TB rolls faster, one with a swaybar or one without!

[Trail X]

The other variable being, do you have a big RTT on the roof?

[fishsticks]

I haven't had swaybars in.... hell I don't remember the last time I had swaybars.

I have my front one here in the garage, but I can't find the frameside bolts.

Meh.

[Skindiggers]

I removed the front sway bar completely from the truck.. It's perfect without it even on the highway ! I have Mark's 3" lift and maybe that's why i don't feel any excessive roll ..
Not to talk about the flex , it's much , much better now !

[fishsticks]

Pull the rear as well and see what happens.

[Skindiggers]

No thanks.. i'm fine like this! LoL

[jhmeg2]

Hmm. I'm getting mixed info here I think. Ok, so last weekend I did the front and rear struts and shocks, with Mark's 3" spacers. Today, I was able to get the Massive \upper and lower control arms in and the panhard bar. In doing the rears, the end links hit the upper control arms, so I removed the rear swaY bar. I am wondering. Hardtrails, you keep saying you "had" them both off... What does that mean? That you now have them back on? Is it safe to have them off? I drive it almost only on the road, but now that I'm playing with it, I might get it off road. Can I get a straight answer? Is it safe to have the front, rear, or both sway bars off. Its not a race car and I know that. I plan on learning the way it feels for a while, before getting on the highway. Also, is there any one else using the Massive products?