Offroad Trailblazers and Envoys

Your Best Opinion?

Need new shoes? This is the place to discuss.

by kodachrome9319 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:16 am

As Christmas and snow in the mountains gets closer and closer and my crappy road tires get balder and balder, I've been bugging my family for new tires for Christmas. Not wanting some pussy soccer mom street tires, I've asked for something aggressive... Just, I'm stuck on what to ask for.

It's an 03, 4WD, all stock. Not planning on asking for wheels too, since my family is already going to pay for an early XMas present to send my ass back to New Jersey to visit a few friends (one of which is getting married :roll: )... So, I am on a budget. Okay, enough with the rambling, but anyone have any ideas or good suggestions?

I looked at Tire Rack and saw the General Grabbers for $112 a piece, and the BFG K/O's were like $170. :shock:

Thanks fellas, looking forward to your replies. :cheers:
User avatar
kodachrome9319
Member
 
Posts: 68
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:51 pm
Location: Milan, NM
Name: Steven Welch
Vehicle Year: 2003
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD

by fishsticks » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:27 am

If I may, allow me to plug the brand I run. The Hankook Dynapro MT. Easy on the budget, great street manners for a MT tire, available in load range E, and will dig into anything. I tried an uphill pass with about 24" of snow on it earlier this year. These tires kept pulling through until I high centered so bad I had all 4 off the ground.

They are wearing much better than I expected as well.

If I don't do Treadwrights next time around, I'll buy another set of these
11 Silverado LTZ - 6.2L/6l80, 2/3 drop, self tuned
85 Hilux - 3RZ, dual cases, caged, 40s, chromo everything
02 TrailBlazer LTZ - 35s, lockers, balls - Gone but not forgotten - Build
User avatar
fishsticks
Moderator
 
Posts: 4356
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:30 pm
Location: WA, Vancouver
Name: Donny
Vehicle Year: Other
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ Aftermarket Locker
Rank: Extreme Offroader

by bartonmd » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:06 am

FWIW, M/T tires are great in DEEP snow, but suck in the kind of snow we get on the streets a lot of places... thin, icy snowy crap... On packed snow, and on ice/slush, you want siping, and that's what mud tires don't have (FWIW, I have a $60 siping gun on the way to me, as we speak, for the Destination M/Ts on my truck)...

I went with 245/70-17 on stock wheels with no spacers, this time... Having had trouble with cutting the sidewalls on "standard load" tires in the stock size, I stepped up to this size and did the BFG A/T in load range E, this time... If I hadn't have just had the bad experience in the rocks, I would have gotten the Grabber AT, in a second... They're much cheaper, are "snow tire / severe snow service" rated, and actually get better ratings on Tire Rack than the BFGs do... Literally, the ONLY reason I didn't get them this last time was just wanting an LT tire, instead of a "P" tire...

Mike
bartonmd
Moderator
 
Posts: 4469
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:35 am
Location: IN, Indianapolis
Name: Mike
Vehicle Year: 2007
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80
Rank: Offroad Rated

by fishsticks » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:18 am

In the interest of full disclosure, I had the center lugs on my tires siped as well. I forgot to mention that.

This of course causes the wonderful chunking problem due to the soft rubber.
11 Silverado LTZ - 6.2L/6l80, 2/3 drop, self tuned
85 Hilux - 3RZ, dual cases, caged, 40s, chromo everything
02 TrailBlazer LTZ - 35s, lockers, balls - Gone but not forgotten - Build
User avatar
fishsticks
Moderator
 
Posts: 4356
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:30 pm
Location: WA, Vancouver
Name: Donny
Vehicle Year: Other
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ Aftermarket Locker
Rank: Extreme Offroader

by Trail X » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:19 am

BFG all the way. I have no comparison data... but they've stood up to my abuse very well. I've put 50k miles on them so far... expecting another 30 or so.
8-) Build Thread | ExPo Build | YouTube Videos
Not all who wander are lost. -Tolkien
User avatar
Trail X
Founder
 
Posts: 9925
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:22 pm
Location: VA, Roanoke
Name: James Downing
Vehicle Year: 2005
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ Aftermarket Locker
Rank: Expedition Guide

by Saxis » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:55 am

I got my Goodyear Duratracs mostly for the high praise they get in rain/snow. They are somewhere between an A/T and M/T. Only slight road noise and have the option of being studded. They aren't exactly the cheapest tire, but as MuddyWaters posted, the Kelly Safari TSR is nearly the same tire at a cheaper price.
User avatar
Saxis
Trail-Blazer
 
Posts: 324
Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:47 pm
Location: Elma, WA
Name: Jesse
Vehicle Year: 2007
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80

by TangoBravo » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:01 pm

I love my treadwrights they have my buisness for life, you can beat the price and they are a quality tire.
Scouts Out, Carbon County Search and Rescue/Carbon County volunteer firefighter.

Ams oil products bumper to bumper, Treadwright Guard Dogs, 3 inch suspension lift, 3 inch body lift 1.5" spacers, swaybar trashcan mod, quad headlight mod
User avatar
TangoBravo
Addict
 
Posts: 652
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:57 pm
Location: Hanna Wy
Name: Robert
Vehicle Year: 2004
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD
Rank: Trail Ready

by Regulator1175 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:14 pm

TangoBravo wrote:I love my treadwrights they have my buisness for life, you can beat the price and they are a quality tire.


:Iagree:
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do.
So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
- Mark Twain
--Build--
User avatar
Regulator1175
Veteran
 
Posts: 1047
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:48 pm
Location: IN, Warsaw
Name: Matthew McClelland
Vehicle Year: 2002
Vehicle: GMC Envoy
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80
Rank: Extreme Offroader

by tbangert » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:23 pm

Regulator1175 wrote:
TangoBravo wrote:I love my treadwrights they have my buisness for life, you can beat the price and they are a quality tire.


:Iagree:

:Iagree: +2

Although I am still waiting for that awful white stuff to fall from the sky so I can see how my Guard Dogs do in the snow. So far they are a great tire!
MarcMC - Bilstien - BDS - WheelAdapters - Treadwright - K&N - Gibson - Hayden - Zone
My Build Thread
User avatar
tbangert
Off-Roader
 
Posts: 157
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:05 pm
Location: ME, Berwick
Name: Tyler
Vehicle Year: 2005
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD

by Mooseknuckle » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:22 pm

Pro-Comp Extreme M/T Load Range E. I love these tires wearing nicely but definitely on the pricey side. Awesome in the rain and off-road but havent had them in the snow yet. I know everyone has their brand they like or have tried and you can get a good deal on similar tires but for me you get what you pay for. BFG..great tire. Firestone destination great tire. Hankook Dynapro M/T great tire. It all depends on your budget. Good luck.
I don't dial 911
Mooseknuckle
Addict
 
Posts: 708
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:31 am
Location: NJ,Brick
Name: Jeff
Vehicle Year: 2006
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD
Rank: Offroad Rated

by BSalty » Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:39 pm

I can tell you what not to get. The Goodyear Wrangler RSA. Thats what I put on in fall of 09. After 10k miles they are half worn and have a LOT of plugs and several sidewall dents. I HATE this tire and can't wait to get rid of them.

I narrowed my choice down to the Kelly or the BFG A/T KO. Should be getting them within a couple of weeks.
User avatar
BSalty
Trail-Blazer
 
Posts: 323
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:33 am
Location: UT, Salt Lake
Name: Brandon
Vehicle Year: 2003
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD
Rank: Offroad Rated

by kodachrome9319 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:09 pm

Thanks gentlemen! Bonehead idiot question here... (these questions are allowed, right?) Are M/T tires also M/S? Only reason I ask is, I do a lot of driving in the Sierras during the Winter, where Caltrans puts their chain control out... I'd like something where I could get by the checkpoints on their lower restrictions without needing to have chains on... I LOATHE chains.

Thanks again, looks like I'll be asking for Treadwrights...
User avatar
kodachrome9319
Member
 
Posts: 68
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:51 pm
Location: Milan, NM
Name: Steven Welch
Vehicle Year: 2003
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD

by Jon A » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:53 pm

The Goodyear Duratracs are M+S with the Snowflake/Mountain symbol so they should get through any chain-up checkpoints. That helped sway me to them as I was looking for something that was better in mud than the BFG A/T KO's, but didn't want to sacrifice the packed snow/ice/slush on-road performance as much as most true mud tires would.

They seem to be getting a pretty good reputation but I haven't been through a winter with them yet. I'll know more in a few months.
Jon A
Member
 
Posts: 81
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:59 am
Location: Everett, WA
Name: Jon Aadland
Vehicle Year: 2002
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ G80

by fishsticks » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:58 pm

My buddy runs Duratracs on his Titan, he loves them.

My M/Ts are not M+S rated.
11 Silverado LTZ - 6.2L/6l80, 2/3 drop, self tuned
85 Hilux - 3RZ, dual cases, caged, 40s, chromo everything
02 TrailBlazer LTZ - 35s, lockers, balls - Gone but not forgotten - Build
User avatar
fishsticks
Moderator
 
Posts: 4356
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:30 pm
Location: WA, Vancouver
Name: Donny
Vehicle Year: Other
Vehicle: Other Vehicle
DriveTrain: 4WD w/ Aftermarket Locker
Rank: Extreme Offroader

by irishboy02 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:17 pm

Chain control? Here in jersey were lucky if the roads are even plowed - let alone people on them checking for chains. I dont see why any Mudterrain tire would be deemed insufficient in snowy terrain. With the aggressive lug pattern i feel they would just wave you through without hesitation

I had the BFG KM2's and absolutely loved them. I bought foosh's old set so they were 245/70-17 on the OEM envoy rims.

Im now running Hankook Dynapro MT in 33x12.5r15 on a 15x10 procomp rim


Now with the obvious differences in the size is substantial, i have hit the same locations, where my KM2s needed 4wd and have walked through in 2wd(open rear) with these Hankooks with just feathering the throttle. Waiting to see the snow conditions though.
Gettin' Dirrty in Jersey :flex dirty:

2003 GMC Sierra z71
7" FTS lift
35x12.5 Toyo MT on 18x9 MotoMetal 962
User avatar
irishboy02
Addict
 
Posts: 840
Joined: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:28 pm
Location: Jurzie boy
Name: Brendan
Vehicle Year: 2005
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD
Rank: Offroad Rated

by TangoBravo » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:02 pm

My treadwrights are M/S :poke:
Scouts Out, Carbon County Search and Rescue/Carbon County volunteer firefighter.

Ams oil products bumper to bumper, Treadwright Guard Dogs, 3 inch suspension lift, 3 inch body lift 1.5" spacers, swaybar trashcan mod, quad headlight mod
User avatar
TangoBravo
Addict
 
Posts: 652
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:57 pm
Location: Hanna Wy
Name: Robert
Vehicle Year: 2004
Vehicle: Chevrolet TrailBlazer
DriveTrain: 4WD
Rank: Trail Ready


Return to Wheels / Tires