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by Trail X » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:10 pm

I once got 302 codes, changed out the plugs and coil, to no avail. I read before that the engine can sometimes mistake which cylinder it codes for. However, my code has been gone for 6 months now, with a "ready" signal even being sent to the scangauge, so I can't really troubleshoot the remaining slight shudder very easily.
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by bgwolfpack » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:25 pm

JamesDowning wrote: I can't really troubleshoot the remaining slight shudder very easily.
I totally agree.

#2 coil is confirmed as bad. Swapped 2 with 3 then 3 with one and got PO303 then PO301 after the first PO302.

Now I question the remaned coils I changed with earlier and do I change just one or break the bank for six new ones? :scratch:
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by fishsticks » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:36 pm

bgwolfpack wrote:
JamesDowning wrote: I can't really troubleshoot the remaining slight shudder very easily.
I totally agree.

#2 coil is confirmed as bad. Swapped 2 with 3 then 3 with one and got PO303 then PO301 after the first PO302.

Now I question the remaned coils I changed with earlier and do I change just one or break the bank for six new ones? :scratch:



I have a spare coil I intended to keep as a trail spare around here somewhere. You're free to borrow it.

Or just come swap a coil with me, mine all work fine.
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by bgwolfpack » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:48 pm

fishsticks wrote:

I have a spare coil I intended to keep as a trail spare around here somewhere. You're free to borrow it.

Or just come swap a coil with me, mine all work fine.
That's a pretty damn nice offer Donny. I'll let you know.
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by navigator » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:11 pm

put my new Bilstein struts on today, flipped my UCA's, rotated my tires and installed Mark's top spacer.
My first strut had the little allen head rusted/stripped out, I had a time getting it off. Nothing went as planned. It took about 6hrs but it is done and rides better. Now to get some washers/spacers for the Skyjackers and do the rears.
Going to try to get alignment next week as well.
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by fishsticks » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:25 am

Bleh...


Was outside my truck today while it was idling... and I heard it.

I have the random miss too. :wallbash:

No codes, and subtle enough that you wouldn't notice it from in the cab. But I can hear it through the exhaust...

Wonder if that's why my mpg is in the 11s...
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by janesy86 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:07 am

Yea same here Donny, no codes either...
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by chevycrew » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:01 am

We have a 08 chevy 6.0 at work, it has the same thing happening, but it shows no signs of anything wrong. Just a random idle miss.
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by Trail X » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:50 am

I notice mine most if creeping forward (like at a red light). For some reason the drive shaft/axle/engine system seems to resonate at the miss frequency, but only noticeable when creeping ever so slowly.

Donny, your mileage could be mainly due to the winter temps. The engine loses a lot of energy when warming up the block, which yields terrible mileage especially on short drives.
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by bdp1978 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:56 am

JamesDowning wrote:I notice mine most if creeping forward (like at a red light). For some reason the drive shaft/axle/engine system seems to resonate at the miss frequency, but only noticeable when creeping ever so slowly.



This is when mine does it. It's done it ever since Ive owned it at a lot of red lights.


I averaged 17.4 mpg all last Summer............Ive been Btwn 13.9-14.1 all this Winter. Terrible.
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by navigator » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:29 pm

aren't the winter blends a little different than the summer blends as well?
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by bgwolfpack » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:41 pm

navigator wrote:aren't the winter blends a little different than the summer blends as well?
I believe it vary's from local but here the it's quite noticeable.
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by bdp1978 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:09 pm

Could be a blend change, but in past winters Ive always stayed in the 16-17 range.
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by OregTrailBlazin » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:22 pm

I have that same intermittent miss.. Had it for a long time now, with no codes and many things replaced. I notice it while outside of the rig, or while learching forward like James was saying. I just keep waiting for something to break so I know what to fix.
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by fishsticks » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:53 pm

Got a code this morning... Off to the parts store.
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by fishsticks » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:36 pm

P0302 - Cylinder 2 Misfire

Parts: 6 AC Delco 41-103 + anti seize + boot grease = $58 after tax.
Time to complete: ~20 mins (body lift + short ram intake = cheating) + 1 minute apologizing to wife for working on truck in new coat.
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Old Plug Type: Autolite XP Iridium (.049 spec gap)
#1 Gap: .052
#2 Gap: .059 (Ah ha)
#3 Gap: .053
#4 Gap: .052
#5 Gap: .053
#6 Gap: .054

Old plugs looked good on color. No signs of valve cover leaking.

New plugs in at .043 gap.

Broke one brittle wire harness clip. :oops:

Problem solved, idles smooth like butta. 8-)
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by bdp1978 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:04 am

SONOVA!!! :facepalm:

Less than 2 weeks after having my entire passenger side ripped apart to repack the disconnect and replace the hub I found this last night.

Looks like Ill be tearing apart the diff side tonight. My truck is like the Dolly Parton of cars, needs constant surgery to stay on the road.


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by The Roadie » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:19 am

fishsticks wrote:Got a code this morning... Off to the parts store.

No scan tool in stock? Oh, the embarrassment....:-?
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by bgwolfpack » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:10 pm

fishsticks wrote:P0302 - Cylinder 2 Misfire

Problem solved, idles smooth like butta. 8-)
Hope it stays that way for you. My experience says it'll be back in a week. Good luck.
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by Trail X » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:12 pm

Hehe, yep!

:Iagree:

If not next week, the week after, when you least expect it.
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