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by Nakashige » Sat May 21, 2011 12:07 pm

I have Marks 2.5 lift kit. Looking to go a bit higher. Looking at doing Z71 rear with Skyjacker #H7030 and 87 or 88 springs up front with Blistien HD's with Marks recommendation for the shocks. Is there any other upgrades I should do at the same time or mods?
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by bgwolfpack » Sat May 21, 2011 12:15 pm

Buy a dozen CV half shaft assemblies and limiting straps.
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by Philberto » Sat May 21, 2011 1:15 pm

All joking aside, i'm sure there a few members running this combo without tearing up their cv axles. Iirc, the main danger is snapping them at full lock on big tires. Avoid full lock and you'll be fine. Just invest in a pair of spare boots and some grease and flip your UCAs. You may also want to consider an adjustable panhard bar and longer rear control arms.
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by bgwolfpack » Sat May 21, 2011 1:38 pm

Philberto wrote: ...i'm sure there a few members running this combo without tearing up their cv axles.
Who?
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by Nakashige » Sat May 21, 2011 1:39 pm

It won't be run hard offroad mainly driving in fields light trails around a farm. I am still bottoming out in some places
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by bgwolfpack » Sat May 21, 2011 1:41 pm

Nakashige wrote:It won't be run hard offroad mainly driving in fields light trails around a farm. I am still bottoming out in some places
Then skip the 87 or 88s and BL the truck with 33s.
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by Nakashige » Sat May 21, 2011 1:43 pm

The goal in the end would to have a trail truck. In the next 6 months when I have a different daily driver.
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by janesy86 » Sat May 21, 2011 2:05 pm

bgwolfpack wrote:
Philberto wrote: ...i'm sure there a few members running this combo without tearing up their cv axles.
Who?


Thats what I'm running (87's w/ Marks lift/ HD shocks up front and Z71's/ Marks lift/ BDS shocks rear) , only difference would be my rear shocks are BDS. No problems here, haven't even had the boot come off and fling grease yet... knock on wood.
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by Nakashige » Sat May 21, 2011 2:10 pm

Jansey how does it ride on long trips. are you going to cumberland on the 26th of June I would love to see your truck before I lift mine
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by janesy86 » Sat May 21, 2011 2:18 pm

I'm personally happy with it, might be stiff for some. Also I'm running with the front sway bar disconnected and think it rides better like that as well.

And yes I am planning on going the the meet in June.
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by fishsticks » Sat May 21, 2011 3:46 pm

FWIW I had zero CV issues until I locked the front diff and put 35's on. I run a spacer lift in front + 88 springs.
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by djthumper » Sat May 21, 2011 3:57 pm

Nakashige wrote:I have Marks 2.5 lift kit. Looking to go a bit higher. Looking at doing Z71 rear with Skyjacker #H7030 and 87 or 88 springs up front with Blistien HD's with Marks recommendation for the shocks. Is there any other upgrades I should do at the same time or mods?


What size tires are you running right now?
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by mikepeters1983 » Sat May 21, 2011 4:10 pm

I am running Marks new lift with 89 springs and Blistins HD shocks. I only tore up factory CV's, after I feplaced them I aint got no problem. I am also running 315/70/17's all the way around, with everything that Mike had to offer at the time that I was there.
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by Nakashige » Sat May 21, 2011 4:50 pm

I am running a 31 right now that I picked up used cheaply
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by Philberto » Sat May 21, 2011 6:21 pm

Personally, going to be running Mark's new lift soon, with 86 or 87 (prefer 86, but I think they're more expensive) and aftermarket boots if the stock ones tear. This setup is going to have 34" OD tires (255/85/16) and with all the research, I think I'll be fine. Supporting mods for this include planned purchases of an adjustable panhard bar, BDS or Skyjacker shocks in rear, and 2" longer control arms in rear. During install, the UCAs will be flipped.

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by fishsticks » Sat May 21, 2011 6:31 pm

Philberto wrote:2" longer control arms in rear



:hijack: Are you planning on losing the factory rear bumper? You won't clear it with 34's and 2" longer LCAs.

I have yet to rub in the rear with 35's on the standard length arms, and I have more down travel than most.
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by MrSmithsTB » Sat May 21, 2011 6:47 pm

I see no real problem with the stock CV joints. Any breakage experienced I believe to be normal with the kind of wheeling some of the members here partake in. I am going to be running Marks lift with Z71 rear springs and 87 front springs. If I don't replace my shafts, I am going to pull them to replace the boots and repack the grease during the install of the new setup. Running 285/70/17s on stock Envoy rims, I foresee no abnormal issues.
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by fishsticks » Sat May 21, 2011 7:05 pm

MrSmithsTB wrote:I see no real problem with the stock CV joints. Any breakage experienced I believe to be normal with the kind of wheeling some of the members here partake in.



Agreed. They are holding up well in 99% of circumstances.
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by janesy86 » Sat May 21, 2011 7:32 pm

MrSmithsTB wrote:I see no real problem with the stock CV joints. Any breakage experienced I believe to be normal with the kind of wheeling some of the members here partake in. I am going to be running Marks lift with Z71 rear springs and 87 front springs. If I don't replace my shafts, I am going to pull them to replace the boots and repack the grease during the install of the new setup. Running 285/70/17s on stock Envoy rims, I foresee no abnormal issues.


:Iagree: Sounds like my suspension set up, even got the 285/75/16's too. And when I wheel its a good amount of rock crawling, so I certainly am not the easiest on my truck and really have yet to see any problems.
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by DmccartneyFF2TB » Sat May 21, 2011 8:57 pm

You shuld be ok from my perspective. I haven't had any issues running basically the same set up. Im probley making a 3/8 spacer for mine also as soon as I get home from vac. There's a lol sagging with the bumper and winch.... :scratch:
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