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by gotricebih » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:10 pm

Once Kyle gets the arms installed he is gonna get a few pics for all of us!

He is gonna get some of the tire centered in the wheel well, and also some shots of his truck flexing. :thumleft:
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by gotricebih » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:12 pm

JamesDowning wrote:Not trying to sensor anyone here, but since this is a VENDOR thread, lets keep things on the topic of the product.

The respective admins and moderators of the sites are currently working on a mutual understanding between the forums.


I don't know what's going on with all this, but thanks for trying to keep this in line.
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by fishsticks » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:14 pm

I'm interested to see how this affects our rear brake lines... I don't recall there being a huge amount of play. Hard flexing may stretch things a bit...
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by gotricebih » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:18 pm

fishsticks wrote:I'm interested to see how this affects our rear brake lines... I don't recall there being a huge amount of play. Hard flexing may stretch things a bit...


Kyle said he has a spot he can test the flex on so we shall see!
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by MrSmithsTB » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:20 pm

fishsticks wrote:I'm interested to see how this affects our rear brake lines... I don't recall there being a huge amount of play. Hard flexing may stretch things a bit...


More than likely, it will be as simple as disconnecting them from the frame. They may be tight, but I think there is enough play left in them.
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by glfredrick » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:40 pm

Typically, there is some room in the steel lines above where they are fastened to the frame. Many lift kits just stick a piece of metal for an extension in the kit to deal with brake line length.

Sometimes with more travel, one has to scope out the parts book and find longer lines. The Parker store is also an alternative -- they can custom build brake lines in multiple styles and colors with just about every end under the sun.
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by gotricebih » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:38 am

Kyle is going to try to install them tonight, if not tonight he said definately tomorrow. After they are on hopefully he will be able to answer everyones questions!
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by The Roadie » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:14 pm

glfredrick wrote:...they can custom build brake lines in multiple styles and colors with just about every end under the sun.
Splicing inthe middle of the steel tube might be easier than adding a longer flexible end on them. One vendor (IIRC) made stainless braided lines for the SSS, and I have a set of them on my front. But he ran out of a custom fitting and got out of the business. The evil GM design team stuck us with a unique fitting at the caliper end. Rats.
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by glfredrick » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:17 pm

I've not tried, but I'll bet that something will work... :lol:

I've used lines from a lot of other stuff on off-road vehicles by bending or moving a tab, etc.
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by OregTrailBlazin » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:28 pm

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glfredrick wrote:...they can custom build brake lines in multiple styles and colors with just about every end under the sun.
Splicing inthe middle of the steel tube might be easier than adding a longer flexible end on them. One vendor (IIRC) made stainless braided lines for the SSS, and I have a set of them on my front. But he ran out of a custom fitting and got out of the business. The evil GM design team stuck us with a unique fitting at the caliper end. Rats.



I have three different suppliers on lines, and they all have had an extremely hard time trying to find the fitting for our truck. To the point that they said if we can send them a set, they would get a custom end machined, but beyond that they can't find it.. They also told me there is a few different lines through the different year ranges....
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by HARDTRAILZ » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:57 pm

I got them painted up and took some pre-install maesurements. The bent pass lower has pulled the axle an extra bit forward on that side, so I need to get these on. The plan is to install tonight, but here are some pics with measurements.

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Stock pics...
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drivers side
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Drivers front of wheelwell--right at 3 inches
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down lower at 2 inches
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Drivers rear of wheelwell--4.5 ish
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little lower--just under 4
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[SIZE="4"]Passenger side[/SIZE]

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FRONT
2.5 inches
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1.5 lower
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Behind tire high--4.75ish
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lower--4ish
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The brake lines will probably benefit from being detached from frame, but I think roadie has a point that a cut and splice away from end may be simpler in our situation.
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by Trail X » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:10 pm

When fully stuffed - how close are your tires to the rear sheet metal?
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by HARDTRAILZ » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:41 pm

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by Trail X » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:04 pm

Right, my worry is that as the tire goes up, it goes further back - if you move the axle back 1", are you going to be running the tire into the rear sheet metal on full stuffage?
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by janesy86 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:10 pm

So then cut, as long as its not hitting the door... then if wanted cover up with some flares..
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by Trail X » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:30 pm

I don't think it's as simple as the fronts. I could be wrong.
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by gotricebih » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:01 pm

The control arms that I sent kyle are only .5" longer then stock. I think he will have minimal rubbing if any at all.

JamesDowning wrote:Right, my worry is that as the tire goes up, it goes further back - if you move the axle back 1", are you going to be running the tire into the rear sheet metal on full stuffage?
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by MrSmithsTB » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:06 pm

JamesDowning wrote:I don't think it's as simple as the fronts. I could be wrong.


Cutting into the 1/4 panel and the bumper are as painless as the front fenders. Doors would be much more complicated. So I would say that it would be better for the wheel to be further back when stuffed, as it would be easier to correct.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:50 am

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Passenger Side- bent side
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front low 2.5 vs 1.5 previous
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Front high 3.5 vs 2.5
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Rear low 3.5ish vs 4
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Rear high 4.25 vs 4.75ish
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by HARDTRAILZ » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:52 am

Drivers Side

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Front high... 3.5 vs 3
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Frnt low.. 2.5ish vs 2
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Rear high... 4 vs 4.5
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Rear low... 3.75 vs 4
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