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by Grimor » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:33 am

Having went with the 5" bumper lights, I recommend going with 1 or 2 sets of the smaller lights instead. Unless you like the look, You'll find better LED options in the smaller lights and look clean. Just my opinion, I still haven't really found good LED 5" lights that work in the bumper.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:00 am

Dang it...now you got me wanting the 42...
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by HARDTRAILZ » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:43 am

No. I got the same ones as you cause they were a great price. I looked at the 42 but think they were more than your link shows now.
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by TBYODA » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:59 pm

Mike did you do any extra water sealing on the lights?
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by HawkeyeC25 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:32 pm

I just picked up the 42W Kawell's you mentioned above. I wired them up briefly and they threw a lot of light in the barn. I am finishing up the brackets on the bumper and when I get it all together, I'll post some pics with them On and Off. I got the Flood versions - you can get 30deg spots as well... both are the same price.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:45 pm

They are cheaper on Ebay...or at least they have best offer at same price. Cant remember if it was these or back-up ones I looked at. Just noticed ebay deals seemed better.
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by bartonmd » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:29 am

Looking around, I've found some 10W single LED, 1050 (raw) lumen (736 effective lumens) lights in the 2-3" range.
http://www.visionxusa.com/product/atv-u ... tice-solo/

However, the 4.5" single LED models are 25W, 2500 raw lumen (1750 effective lumen).
http://www.visionxusa.com/product/autom ... -198871627


Or, you can go with like a 4" semi-square, running 4750 raw lumen (3330 effective lumen) output.
http://www.visionxusa.com/product/led-l ... -198871627

By comparison, stock headlights are in the 1000 - 1350 lumen range.

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by Grimor » Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:04 pm

I have the 4.5" light cannons. due to mounting complications with the orientation of the 3 tab lenses I wasn't really able to use them in the 5" cans. also, one of the neat things is the swappable lenses that is impossible to do without removing the light. People seem to like the cheap 20 dollar led lights more than the light cannons when I have both on.
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by bartonmd » Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:20 pm

Well, yeah... The beam is definitely more defined on the light cannons, but when you compare a 25W light cannon to a 42W multi-LED model of the same size, the 42W model is going to put out almost double the light (the single high wattage LEDs are hard to passively cool, so they dim after a while, especially if you aren't moving to move air over the fins).

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by HawkeyeC25 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:21 pm

Ok here are the pics... I tested out the KAWELL 42W 4.6" 60 Degree Round LED lights, my Quad Headlight Mod, as well as my new TMH 20'' Dual Row Combo High Power 126w Light Bar.

I have the fog lights wired up to the factory wiring with no issues. The LED bar was temporarily hooked directly to the battery.

I like this setup a lot. The round "fogs" don't seem too blinding but lights up the road area very well (as fog lights should do). The LED bar is perfect for filling up everything else. It has a combo of floods AND spots.

As a side note, I get TERRIBLE FM reception with either set of LED lights on. My local stations even pretty much go away when these lights are on. Seems to be some pretty major interference with these china made lights. XM works fine of course :)

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Low beams + LED Fog lights
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Low beams + High beams (Quad Light Mod)
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LED Bar + Low beams + High beams
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by jrivs4x4tb » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:23 pm

Colorado springs where you at!?
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by HawkeyeC25 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:15 pm

The fogs are using the factory fog light wiring, but the led bar was wired straight to the battery terminals. Both resulted in the same amount of interference.
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by v7guy » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:59 am

The RFI is caused by the Power Drivers used to supply the LED's. They don't have filters and you can't really add em in either since they need to be on the pcb, something you're gonna have to just live with unfortunately... pop in a CD, or pass those on and get some lights with RF filters


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by bartonmd » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:48 am

Hmmm... I've got 2 sets of lights, not connected to the factory wiring, and have no radio reception issues.

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by HARDTRAILZ » Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:14 am

I have never had any interference that I noticed with lights, but not a huge FM radio person.
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by HawkeyeC25 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:43 am

Some stations still came in, but others were just static. I'm not really concerned because it's not my daily driver and I'm not that concerned with the lack of FM stations ;)

Either way, I'm very pleased with these lights. Hope it helps some people make a decision!
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