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by Trail X » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:53 pm

Blazintrails03 wrote:I like the idea of a "hall of fame" or "featured" list. But also something I never thought of before is the sort menu at the bottom of the page. Set it to "views" and it brings all of the key players right to the top.


To be honest, I hadn't used or noticed that before. Very cool! Ya learn something new everyday!
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by blacksheep » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:59 pm

Personally I like seeing some of the "lesser" builds as much as seeing the all out trail trucks. Most people even on this site will never be putting on the fabed bumpers, wont be doing a full float swap, or running 35's. Many don't have an interest in dragging their quarter panel against oaks and rocks. Please don't forget that the Mark likely wouldn't be making a variety of lifts and spacers if it was only for the 50 people who actually wheel them hard the way some of you do. If some of the other members never get their tires dirty WTF do you care? What if one of those guys figures out how to mount an extended UCA from another platform but isn't interested in going through the crap of posting it here because he chromed it first. I'm willing to bet there's more guys who have mid level builds on here than the "serious" ones, their just afraid to pipe up and I bet a lot of them have something to offer, if nothing else just to the other guys who want mild builds. The veterans here are a great resource and I enjoy reading what your doing but don't make the mistake that the only ones with something to offer are the ones that wheel it to wreck it on the weekends. This isn't hazing, this is hating. When doing my lift thread I posted a picture of one of my old trail trucks so I would be seen as an equal and get some input on a lift that many of you would put down. That's what some of you are purposing here, no build thread till your proven. Why the hell do I have to prove myself or my background to you. One of the first comments on that thread was that no one was running that combo of parts and some others posted interest on the outcome. Sounds like something that should be condensed into a build thread. My offroading these days consists of the need to capably navigate old logging trails and minimum maintenance roads to get to out of the way camp sites with the family and gear. Not to the standards of what I used to call real wheeling and my EXT will never see those trails. Without "proving myself" offroad first, my combo of parts and results don't qualify for a build thread. I come here for info and comradery on a shared platform and interest, I'm not feeling the comradery. I'm not here to start a war but I'm also fine being with being an asshole.

And the kiss of death: I had my running boards off for a bit, kids had a tough time climbing into the truck, their back on.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:59 am

I need a better build thread.
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by v7guy » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:14 am

HARDTRAILZ wrote:I need a better build thread.



yeah you do, I have to search through 4 forums to get info on all your mods over the years. lol

I can't say much though, I don't think I updated my sliders, roof lights etc in my build thread.
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by bartonmd » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:28 am

blacksheep wrote:Personally I like seeing some of the "lesser" builds as much as seeing the all out trail trucks. Most people even on this site will never be putting on the fabed bumpers, wont be doing a full float swap, or running 35's. Many don't have an interest in dragging their quarter panel against oaks and rocks. Please don't forget that the Mark likely wouldn't be making a variety of lifts and spacers if it was only for the 50 people who actually wheel them hard the way some of you do. If some of the other members never get their tires dirty WTF do you care? What if one of those guys figures out how to mount an extended UCA from another platform but isn't interested in going through the crap of posting it here because he chromed it first. I'm willing to bet there's more guys who have mid level builds on here than the "serious" ones, their just afraid to pipe up and I bet a lot of them have something to offer, if nothing else just to the other guys who want mild builds. The veterans here are a great resource and I enjoy reading what your doing but don't make the mistake that the only ones with something to offer are the ones that wheel it to wreck it on the weekends. This isn't hazing, this is hating. When doing my lift thread I posted a picture of one of my old trail trucks so I would be seen as an equal and get some input on a lift that many of you would put down. That's what some of you are purposing here, no build thread till your proven. Why the hell do I have to prove myself or my background to you. One of the first comments on that thread was that no one was running that combo of parts and some others posted interest on the outcome. Sounds like something that should be condensed into a build thread. My offroading these days consists of the need to capably navigate old logging trails and minimum maintenance roads to get to out of the way camp sites with the family and gear. Not to the standards of what I used to call real wheeling and my EXT will never see those trails. Without "proving myself" offroad first, my combo of parts and results don't qualify for a build thread. I come here for info and comradery on a shared platform and interest, I'm not feeling the comradery. I'm not here to start a war but I'm also fine being with being an asshole.

And the kiss of death: I had my running boards off for a bit, kids had a tough time climbing into the truck, their back on.


Take a deep breath and un-twist your panties. I don't know that anybody is saying that only supremely modded people can have build threads. However, there is no need for a build thread if your only "mod" is synthetic oil. If you wheel completely stock, that's great. Post trip reports or don't post them. That's fine. If you're not stock and don't wheel it at all, you can still post a build thread. That's fine. If you're completely stock and don't wheel, and are here for whatever reason you're here, that's great and you're welcome here, but there's no need to post a build thread. The point is that a BUILD thread is to be about what you did to BUILD your vehicle, and if your vehicle is completely stock, there's no need for a BUILD thread.

FWIW, I ran running boards for a long time, for the rock chips. My wife liked the running boards look and functionality, but we needed sliders, so I made a set of "wife-resistant running boards" that work like running boards AND like sliders.

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by blacksheep » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:36 am

bartonmd wrote:Take a deep breath and un-twist your panties. I don't know that anybody is saying that only supremely modded people can have build threads. However, there is no need for a build thread if your only "mod" is synthetic oil. If you wheel completely stock, that's great. Post trip reports or don't post them. That's fine. If you're not stock and don't wheel it at all, you can still post a build thread. That's fine. If you're completely stock and don't wheel, and are here for whatever reason you're here, that's great and you're welcome here, but there's no need to post a build thread. The point is that a BUILD thread is to be about what you did to BUILD your vehicle, and if your vehicle is completely stock, there's no need for a BUILD thread.

FWIW, I ran running boards for a long time, for the rock chips. My wife liked the running boards look and functionality, but we needed sliders, so I made a set of "wife-resistant running boards" that work like running boards AND like sliders.

Mike



Yea, sorry about that post. Im a vol firefighter and I had typed the first sentence when I got a call. Not such a fun call and then we reviewed some photos from Boston after. I drove back home and continued typing, bad plan. The content was what I wanted to say but the tone shows I wanted to punch someone in the nose.

btw Im also a fan of your sliders :)
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by mikekey » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:12 am

Mike said it best. The build threads are about what you've done to build your vehicle. If you are stock and came up with some new idea, post it in the fab or completed modifications section.

A lot of people are going to have different uses for their vehicles. And not all of us want to drag our vehicles over rocks in an attempt to break things. I put 35's on my truck, but I have no intentions of "rock crawling" or dragging my rig over the biggest object. My intentions are to enable us to explore more places on our journeys out west. Everyone has a slightly different approach.

But there do seem to be a number of builds that are the same 1 page with the usual lift and tires and nothing else unique and no real purpose stated to the build. I don't think "I just wanted to lift it" is reason for a build thread, unless you're doing something more.

I'm not even against lifted show rigs because sometimes those guys do a lot of unique stuff, even if some people think it's pointless.

But the 1 post MarkMC's 3inch lift, spacers and 31inch tires thread, with no pictures or stated purpose is getting lame.
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by Blazintrails03 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:43 am

JamesDowning wrote:
Blazintrails03 wrote:I like the idea of a "hall of fame" or "featured" list. But also something I never thought of before is the sort menu at the bottom of the page. Set it to "views" and it brings all of the key players right to the top.


To be honest, I hadn't used or noticed that before. Very cool! Ya learn something new everyday!


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by v7guy » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:56 am

we're starting to see a consensus here, but like James mentioned, it would be tough on the admins in some respects.

I started my lift just so I could get around in the snow better, then it evolved.
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by Cable810 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:55 am

Then there are people who make a build thread and then "vanish" from the sight never to be heard from again.
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by mikekey » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:03 am

Here is a suggestion that may be the easiest to implement and reduce the number of pointless threads to some degree. Require a minimum post count in order to post a build thread.

Right now there are a dozen or so builds where the user has less than 30 posts. And several of them on the first two pages, the users post count is the number of posts in his build thread.

I think if you're going to do a build, participation in the rest of the site is kind of a given.
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by navigator » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:35 am

Mike, it is interesting to see how many hits you and JorDanee have on your build thread, especially with much of it being so new.
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by mikekey » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:37 pm

Thank-you. We have been able to progress rather quickly thanks to wealth of information here provided by other members. I just try to keep my thread as updated and detailed as possible for other folks who are learning.
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by Trail X » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:39 pm

mikekey wrote:Here is a suggestion that may be the easiest to implement and reduce the number of pointless threads to some degree. Require a minimum post count in order to post a build thread.

Right now there are a dozen or so builds where the user has less than 30 posts. And several of them on the first two pages, the users post count is the number of posts in his build thread.

I think if you're going to do a build, participation in the rest of the site is kind of a given.


Maybe that + "featured" builds... ?
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by DustinC1989 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:45 pm

Feel free to delete mine, as I said before. I started it because at the time it seemed like it was going to be a fast moving build, unfortunately unexpected cost came up, saving for closing cost and down payment followed by being laid off.
I can start a new thread when we actually start ordering and building stuff
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by navigator » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:02 pm

bartonmd wrote:.... I ran running boards for a long time, for the rock chips. My wife liked the running boards look and functionality, but we needed sliders, so I made a set of "wife-resistant running boards" that work like running boards AND like sliders.

Mike


I think sliders of some sort will be my next mod as well.
Since the BL and 32's my youngest(5yo) can't get in the TB by himself anymore.
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by Trail X » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:02 pm

You might be fine with running boards Chris... I mean - with a BL, and flat sand driving. You could prob snag some running boards for cheap! Just trying to save you some money and headache.
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by navigator » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:55 pm

JamesDowning wrote:You might be fine with running boards Chris... I mean - with a BL, and flat sand driving. You could prob snag some running boards for cheap! Just trying to save you some money and headache.


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by NC_IslandRunner » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:36 pm

navigator wrote:
No man, they will take my man card if I get running boards!


Wait, who gave your card back?
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by Blazintrails03 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:04 pm

Navigator ill send you my boards you send me that front hitch haha
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