RadFlo Group Buy

[jonbo2002]

[HARDTRAILZ]

Thanks...

Looks like it was Mikekey and he edited the post. That's what Erik was getting at though.

I guess since I been texting Erik this morning, I will ask him cause I really doubt you can read his mind.

[dvanbramer88]

Sure, let me know.

[ErikSS]

Thanks...

Looks like it was Mikekey and he edited the post. That's what Erik was getting at though.

I guess since I been texting Erik this morning, I will ask him cause I really doubt you can read his mind.

Hahahahahaha breath hahahaha

[HARDTRAILZ]

Sure, let me know.

He was just cracking on Mikekey before you tossed your two cents in.

Maybe now that this thread has been pushed to another page all the real info I asked about will be lost. Glad you helped after Mikekey had already answered my question.

[Moots1288]

Sure, let me know.

He was just cracking on Mikekey before you tossed your two cents in.

Maybe now that this thread has been pushed to another page all the real info I asked about will be lost. Glad you helped after Mikekey had already answered my question.

Whoa why am I involved. Why you hating on my lack of a bumper

[ErikSS]

Not hating. Stating. Someone said both Radflo trucks have bumpers..

[Regulator1175]

Somebody said "Mike and Matt both had bumpers" or something along those lines. I can't find it but I remember reading it this morning.

Anyway, I also thought to myself, wait, moots doesn't have a front bumper. But it is possible that that person meant Regulator also.

I think that is what Erik is getting at.

Wait, why would my name be coming up when talking about not having a bumper?

Hey Dave, isn't there a full size stock Chevy off road site you can go terrorize?

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[ErikSS]

Regulator... Meet Moots... The raflo using Matt without a front bumper... Haha.. This conversation went south quick!

[Moots1288]

He terrorizes both already

[HARDTRAILZ]

I really hope my questions get addressed. I submitted my order, but have not paid since I need a paypal invoice.

I am really surprised none of you saw or asked about any of this earlier. As many questions and as much as this site nitpicks, a huge gap in informed purchasing seems to be occuring. Does everyone want the exact same thing even with the large variety of set-ups and usage? Does no one think that based on only a couple sales that there is still not meat left on the bone perfomance wise? Did no one ask and find out that Moots is thinking he might like a lower spring rate closer to 88s due to his light front end set-up?

Mike made the best guesses/assumptions he could on the first set and seems quite happy, but looking at all that ordered these and the huge discrepancies in setups.... maybe everyone does not need what he picked out.

[jonbo2002]

Is everyone getting same 600 rate springs?

What length? I know Barton got half inch over stock?

Barton and previous threads on radglo said 2.5 inch shock but Johnny's site says 2. Which is it?

Are there options or are these all being built the same?

Is silver the only color for coils or are there other powder coat available?

Please correct if wrong but color is silver or chrome.

They are 2 and 2.5 was mentioned as comparison in previous threads.

All 3 sets currently are built the same length and spring rate?

No one has tried a spring closer to 88/89s with 450/500 rate?

Mentions of an inch longer being possible were made but never confirmed?

Could their be an advantage to a 500 spring and extra length if going to up.near the 4 inch lift mark like I currently sit?

Or could a 650 rate be better with full bumper, tube brush guard, skids, winch?

So far two people in this group buy I heard from are just going with what was built previously. Worriesme that when reading how the length and rate was chosen had so little reported research, there may be even better or more performance to be gained with some tweaking.

to keep Kyles question at the top!

[mikekey]

Let's get these questions answered and keep the thread clean for Kyle.

Please correct if wrong but color is silver or chrome.

They are 2 and 2.5 was mentioned as comparison in previous threads.

All 3 sets currently are built the same length and spring rate?

No one has tried a spring closer to 88/89s with 450/500 rate?

Mentions of an inch longer being possible were made but never confirmed?

Could their be an advantage to a 500 spring and extra length if going to up.near the 4 inch lift mark like I currently sit?

Or could a 650 rate be better with full bumper, tube brush guard, skids, winch?

So far two people in this group buy I heard from are just going with what was built previously. Worriesme that when reading how the length and rate was chosen had so little reported research, there may be even better or more performance to be gained with some tweaking.

[HARDTRAILZ]

Thank you Thank you

Esp since it only affects me...

[HARDTRAILZ]

Regulator just called me and he had just talked to Johnny. Johnny will be around in a couple hours to address these concerns. Hopefully we can all come out of this with something setup to give us the maximum benefit.

[JorDaneeKey]

I was just about to ask if someone had emailed Johnny directly. IIRC, several pages ago he had posted difficultly in finding time/means to get on the forum and that direct email would be easier.

[TBYODA]

Kyle I see your point about setups. For me at least I did wonder about that and did post that question on front end weight back in my radflo's question thread that turned into the group buy thread. At some point I want to add a front bumper and winch and was ok with the fact it "might be stiff until then" but it was said that it is not bad. I know it will be a lot different that stock that is part for the course.

[HARDTRAILZ]

I already had emailled him directly, but Matt called him after our previous conversations got his mind working too.

[OregTrailBlazin]

Is everyone getting same 600 rate springs?

SO far yes. I'm sure RadFlo can put a different coil on if you prefer. This is the coil they chose when I sent in my stock strut assembly, and they looked up the factory Specs. How exactly they chose it I'm not sure. They are the coilover specialist

What length? I know Barton got half inch over stock?

We made the top plate a half inch thicker for Mike's. Effectively the same as a 1/2 top spacer to a Bilstein HD. It worked very well for him, so we kept that measurement.

Barton and previous threads on radglo said 2.5 inch shock but Johnny's site says 2. Which is it?
They are 2 and 2.5 was mentioned as comparison in previous threads.

Radflo said due to size and space of this front suspension the 2" shock diameter will fit and perform better. The coil says 2.5" on it, so that might be where mike got the 2.5 from.

Are there options or are these all being built the same?

What options do you want? If the shock travel is any longer, it will be wasted, as the CV's and control arms can only travel so much. Do you have a specific option you looking for, or just options?

Is silver the only color for coils or are there other powder coat available?
Please correct if wrong but color is silver or chrome.

Silver is the only option right now, they come that way from Eibach

All 3 sets currently are built the same length and spring rate?
Yes

No one has tried a spring closer to 88/89s with 450/500 rate?

No one yet. So far we know what RadFlo put together works, I'm sure a lighter spring, or a heavier spring will work too. But obviously no one has tested that.

I sell the exact same coilovers for a standard cab Tacoma as we do for a double cab long bed. Do they ride a little firmer on the standard Cab vs. the other, of course. But they are still way better than stock suspension.

Mentions of an inch longer being possible were made but never confirmed?

If you have an overall length you want the shock, I can have them account for that. The top plate can be built thicker. But I'm assuming since I got their pricing down as low as they could go, it may cost a little extra for the material.

Could their be an advantage to a 500 spring and extra length if going to up.near the 4 inch lift mark like I currently sit?

Sure, could be, I don't know. Depends on what you consider an advantage. Usually a softer spring has to be longer to get the same lift height. When you put a longer spring, which has more wraps, on a shock with a given length you can run into Coil binding issues when under full compression. Basically your coil can compress all the way, stopping the travel before the bumpstop does.

Or could a 650 rate be better with full bumper, tube brush guard, skids, winch?

I think my SAW's with 650s are way too stiff, and I have a full 3/16' plate bumper. But ultimately "ride firmness" is real subjective, and changes from one person to the next. Some guys really like a firm ride, some guys like the softer, floating ride.

[HARDTRAILZ]

Are there options or are these all being built the same?

What options do you want? If the shock travel is any longer, it will be wasted, as the CV's and control arms can only travel so much. Do you have a specific option you looking for, or just options?

I understand the limitations, but the discussion of rates and length, only that inch, never seemed fully addressed. The length prolly is best all around, but springs might do better depending on person and set-up. I was not completely sure that Radflo had chosen that rate or if it was a best guess at the time. If they chose it, it probably is based on things I wont understand.

Could their be an advantage to a 500 spring and extra length if going to up.near the 4 inch lift mark like I currently sit?

Sure, could be, I don't know. Depends on what you consider an advantage. Usually a softer spring has to be longer to get the same lift height. When you put a longer spring, which has more wraps, on a shock with a given length you can run into Coil binding issues when under full compression. Basically your coil can compress all the way, stopping the travel before the bumpstop does.

Did not think of the coil bind possiblity. Makes sense. But for those only doing a couple inches of lift, the lighter springs may be a possiblity, esp if they are not running a heavy front end. Nice to know that different cab lengths are not enough to warrant different springs

Or could a 650 rate be better with full bumper, tube brush guard, skids, winch?

I think my SAW's with 650s are way too stiff, and I have a full 3/16' plate bumper. But ultimately "ride firmness" is real subjective, and changes from one person to the next. Some guys really like a firm ride, some guys like the softer, floating ride.

I understand, but your shocks are likely valved differently too. I am not sure your or Raodies experience would transfer straight across to these


It seems that the package chosen is a good cover-all, but might be able to get little tweaks. However, i do not think any of us have the knowledge or background to know which aspects to change. Maybe getting 15 sets out in use will allow for future buyers to benefit from our experiences.



Couple more questions...

How much is a new spring if we wanted to try a 500 vs 600 in the future?

Roadie states at least once that he will not run coilovers without limiting straps after his experience. Should we be looking into limiting straps?




I greatly appreciate the discussion and quick answers to lots of "last minute" questions, but felt it was not my place until I was a part of this buy. Thanks.