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by irishboy02 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:52 pm

Sorry iv been MIA lately, been really busy with work and training.

Okay so iv been looking around in posts and the build threads and i have yet to see anyone on 35s, iv only seen people and read of people on 33s. Once these KM2's run bald im slappin the body lift in and looking to go to 35s. Objections?

I want to do a 35x12 and am in the air between a 16 and 17" rim. Going to need/get spacers too, so ill be getting adapter from 6x5-6x5.5 aswell.

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by janesy86 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:58 pm

No one is really running them b/c they will rub like crazy when flexing and whatnot.. thats why MarkMc's TB is a show truck pretty much.

Also it takes a lot more to rotate those bad Larry's, so new gears... Its just not really practicle to run them if you are actually wheelin'. Unless you go for a SAS.

Idk I guess thats just my opinion, the max I'd go for on this platform would be 33's.
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by Trail X » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:02 pm

Unless you have 4.10 gears, it will be a pavement pony.
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by irishboy02 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:12 pm

With body lift in the front and the IFS i dont see a rubbing issue there.

In the rear, with a body lift the only issue i forsee is rubbin on the front side of the wheel-well. With our 5 link rear all that itl take is longer arms, which wont be hard to do/find. Correct me if im wrong here.

35s w/ SAS? No shot. If i complete the sas its 38s or nothing. Go big or go home. :shoot:
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by Gordinho80 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:32 pm

I've been running my 32's for almost a year and have had no issues with them. I won't ever be going with more then a 32-33. The extra 1.5" of ground clearance a 35" tire would give me over a 32" is just not worth all the hassle, IMO. I've got 3.42 gears in my I6... 32's are already heavy enough to spin over the 29" stockers...
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by janesy86 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:13 pm

Well obviously if your doing a SAS prob would go with bigge,r but look at Marks TB he had a shitload of cutting to do and it would definitely rub if he wheeled it as I believe it still rubs a bit when he takes a tight corner or the suspension compresses a bit..

But like Mario said the lil extra clearance isn't worth it IMO, but do it if thats what your lookin for.
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by irishboy02 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:39 pm

Didnt know mark was runnin 35s, so its possible then. I like the idea of 35s, i just feel 33s are too small, esp once the bodylift is installed. Only time will tell. Ill inquire more to mark who can prob familiarize with this.

Aside from gearing, which ill prob wind up switchin anyway, any other mechanical issues? I dont see the cv shaft angle changing since its only tire size not suspension thats changing.
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by Philberto » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:43 pm

See also: AlekG (I believe he's on 35's and 4.56 gears)
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by janesy86 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:53 pm

Alek only has 33's... Now there is another on the OS with 35's... DJarmy.
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by irishboy02 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:55 pm

Yeaa i know about Alek but hes too cool for a build thread i guess :raspberry:

Ill check out that guy on the OS
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by foosh » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:05 pm

35's are definatley possible if your willing to try it, most people on here are very conservative with what they're doing... kinda like how 33's were a mark, 35's will be too, and it'll just take someone with the drive to do it. Also once we start getting people on here that can do structural welding and fab, you'll start seeing a lot more trucks running 35's and bigger. sas's have been done in trucks for a long time, and they're not a necessarily hard process, just takes someone with experience and drive. Also I'm sure if you went to kyrtopnite and said i have 2500 and a dana 44, I'm sure they'd get the truck rolling big to have the chance to make the first real tv sas.
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by bobbyblaze » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:05 pm

I currently have 4:636 gears. When my current rubber gets down to 50% i'm goin' up to 32X12.5 M/T's and changing my gears to 4:90 to correct the speedo/odometer and a little more power/torque.

Would be a real good idea to up those gears with 35's.
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by bgwolfpack » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:15 pm

bobbyblaze wrote:I currently have 4:636 gears. When my current rubber gets down to 50% i'm goin' up to 32X12.5 M/T's and changing my gears to 4:90 to correct the speedo/odometer and a little more power/torque.

Would be a real good idea to up those gears with 35's.

You may want to change your vehicle info to other, so not to confuse those who don't know you jumped ship. :poke:
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by irishboy02 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:39 am

Yea im going to need to get rid of my 3.42s as well, otherwise il need to floor it to just get to 30mph. I still have some meat left on these tires before they need to be replaced so i have some time to pla this out. Its lookin like im gonna go this route if not sas
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by foosh » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:43 am

Well if you can ride it out until you get the funding just go for the sas... because the gear swap alone is gonna cost alot.
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by irishboy02 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:54 am

I would love to be the first however i thought about it and no longer want to be. Id rather someone with much more funding be the leader on something like that, esp someone that does not rely on their rig for a daily. Yes, it would be an awesome fab esp bein one of the only but will it really work according to plan? Also our trucks were not designed for it, even with the fab work will it really be all its talked up to be? Once in a real offroad enironment will it all go according to plan or will i start breaking stuff left and right since this is not the true means and design for the truck. just saying thoughts in my mind.

Besides, im about to be the first person with a real snorkel :mechanic:
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by The Roadie » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:13 am

You would be in territory all by yourself, discovering what breaks next. It would be a horrible situation to spend 100% of your budget on the mods, and not have an emergency fund to: a) fix what breaks, and b) get yourself home from the site of the carnage.

I neglected to have a fund/plan for b) when I broke myself playing Good Samaritan in Colorado, and had to depend on the kindness of trailvoy members to get home.

To go to 35's without at least having 30 spline rear axles from the EXT would be inviting disaster IMHO. Finding a trail that denies you on 33's FIRST, then upgrading to 35's at the next revision, might make sense. Making sure to add OTHER layers of armor to protect you as you grow your experience and confidence is also important. Neil's still waiting for his first East Coast order for gas tank armor. :poke:
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by foosh » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:18 am

The Roadie wrote:You would be in territory all by yourself, discovering what breaks next. It would be a horrible situation to spend 100% of your budget on the mods, and not have an emergency fund to: a) fix what breaks, and b) get yourself home from the site of the carnage.

I neglected to have a fund/plan for b) when I broke myself playing Good Samaritan in Colorado, and had to depend on the kindness of trailvoy members to get home.

To go to 35's without at least having 30 spline rear axles from the EXT would be inviting disaster IMHO. Finding a trail that denies you on 33's FIRST, then upgrading to 35's at the next revision, might make sense. Making sure to add OTHER layers of armor to protect you as you grow your experience and confidence is also important. Neil's still waiting for his first East Coast order for gas tank armor. :poke:


Well it'll probably be JD... Jersey as i've explained doesn't need armor because its all mud and sand here, the added weight is just an anchor, kinda the reason i haven't done sliders.
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by irishboy02 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:45 am

Yea, my weight has already plagued me in sloppy mud and deep snow on inclines.

Yea roadie, my point and case exactly. Besides, i cant see making a 2005 a project vehicle, not to mention that my warranty just expired on monday. I would love to have the strength and capabilities of a front solid axle but right now im no longer sure its exactly what i need. Well see how the 35s go first. A reputable offroad shop around the corner from my house knows their stuff so might be able to help expand on our ifs setup :flex dirty:
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by janesy86 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:15 am

The Roadie wrote:Neil's still waiting for his first East Coast order for gas tank armor. :poke:


I'll be askin him for one come summertime most likely. Right now I'm patiently awaitin him to be able to get a TB in to work off to make me a rear tube bumper/ swinging carrier...

But after that I'll have a coule more things I'm lookin to get made by him. :friday:
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