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by fishsticks » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:59 pm

JamesDowning wrote:I'll be ordering mine "soon". Haha, soon is a fun word. I just need to decide if I'm going full monty or not.


I've nvere personally seen the need for a panhard (unless yours is jacked) but I'd get all 4 arms if I were you.

I think I bought my nonadjustable arms from Infamouz after he changed his mind. You going to install these this time or should I start saving up? :poke:
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by Infamouz » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:39 pm

fishsticks wrote:
JamesDowning wrote:I'll be ordering mine "soon". Haha, soon is a fun word. I just need to decide if I'm going full monty or not.


I've nvere personally seen the need for a panhard (unless yours is jacked) but I'd get all 4 arms if I were you.

I think I bought my nonadjustable arms from Infamouz after he changed his mind. You going to install these this time or should I start saving up? :poke:


:mrgreen: haha thats funny...yeah I am for sure its just like I said last time I kind of got my self into a big money issue, we lost hours at work and ther was a rumor going around that we might be closing the werehouse soon but thank god everything picked up big time. Now im trying to get everything back again so I can continue with my build.
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by K STYLEZ » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:52 pm

Any time your lifting (or lowering) with suspension (body lift wouldnt effect), a fixed panhard is going to kick the axle off to one side. While it's effects handling wise probably aren't that noticable on a more off road application (quite noticable on a paved sporting application tho), there's a possibility it's going to cause rub issues either on the inside or outside. :safari:

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by fishsticks » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:04 am

K STYLEZ wrote:Any time your lifting (or lowering) with suspension (body lift wouldnt effect), a fixed panhard is going to kick the axle off to one side. While it's effects handling wise probably aren't that noticable on a more off road application (quite noticable on a paved sporting application tho), there's a possibility it's going to cause rub issues either on the inside or outside. :safari:

LAME!



I'm aware of the mechanical issues. What I'm saying is that I'm lifted close to 5" in the rear (not counting body lift) and the offset at resting height is about an inch. Even on 35's I have no unexpected rubbing issues.

If I tweaked my stocker (or destroyed the bushings in it) I'd prolly pony up for one of these...
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by Rob93 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:38 pm

fishsticks wrote:
K STYLEZ wrote:Any time your lifting (or lowering) with suspension (body lift wouldnt effect), a fixed panhard is going to kick the axle off to one side. While it's effects handling wise probably aren't that noticable on a more off road application (quite noticable on a paved sporting application tho), there's a possibility it's going to cause rub issues either on the inside or outside. :safari:

LAME!



I'm aware of the mechanical issues. What I'm saying is that I'm lifted close to 5" in the rear (not counting body lift) and the offset at resting height is about an inch. Even on 35's I have no unexpected rubbing issues.

If I tweaked my stocker (or destroyed the bushings in it) I'd prolly pony up for one of these...


:Iagree: The tire being more offset should really only affect rubbing on a steering axle. On a rear axle how far the tires stick out will really only start to have a noticeable affect on rubbing when it sticks very far out (think full width axles on a jeep) and then in that case you would have less rubbing not more...
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by HARDTRAILZ » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:54 pm

:Iagree: The tire being more offset should really only affect rubbing on a steering axle. On a rear axle how far the tires stick out will really only start to have a noticeable affect on rubbing when it sticks very far out (think full width axles on a jeep) and then in that case you would have less rubbing not more...



Not true. When the stick out further they can get into the lip of fender when before they would tuck inside fender lip.
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by Rob93 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:23 pm

HARDTRAILZ wrote:
:Iagree: The tire being more offset should really only affect rubbing on a steering axle. On a rear axle how far the tires stick out will really only start to have a noticeable affect on rubbing when it sticks very far out (think full width axles on a jeep) and then in that case you would have less rubbing not more...



Not true. When the stick out further they can get into the lip of fender when before they would tuck inside fender lip.



I'm thinking more of cut fenders, where a fender lip is long gone.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:27 pm

Kinda tough to cut our rears...with the doors n all
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by Rob93 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:29 pm

Yea.. I had my xj in mind on that post
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by Karo » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:40 pm

Hm what´s with your website? By clicking the "Here" Links in the first post the website didn´t show the product..
Could you please check this?

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by gabepiceno » Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:30 pm

Interested in pan hard bar, just making sure they are still being made seems like this thread has been quiet for a little while. After putting the body lift and 33's on this wekend i noticed that my rear axle seems to be offset about 1" to the passenger side never noticed it before.
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by djthumper » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:08 pm

It has just been quiet. He just started to offer them, I don't know how many he has sold yet, but I am sure they are still available.
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by Trail X » Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:05 pm

I keep "almost" pulling the trigger on them, but keep running into unexpected little expenses that keep me pushing it back. Sadly these things aren't a priority when compared to the transmission and engine. Soon - I say!

I too noticed a problem with the website last week. Seems the website lost all of it's products. Appears fixed now.
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by K STYLEZ » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:16 am

Yes, we've got plenty!

We make them here, so even if we run out - there's always more in the pipeline being made.

:safari: :cheers:

Are the links working for you guys at this point?

They work for me?
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by Hatchet669 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:05 pm

I really need to start checking out this site more often. Now I just need a bank account with extra money in it...
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by DirtyBacon04 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:35 pm

Hatchet669 wrote:I really need to start checking out this site more often. Now I just need a bank account with extra money in it...


Pick me up one of those while your out. Thanks, bud.
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by bdp1978 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:52 am

Well, since nobody has posted a review or thoughts in awhile Ill add to this.

My Panhard had started to "Clunck/Pop" every once in awhile during right hand turns. I would loosen the lower bolt, lube, retighten and it would go away for a couple weeks but it was driving me batsh*t. That, and after being lifted I always hated the axle offset, yeah its not much but I still noticed it. SO, with the Black Friday sale I went ahead and ordered up the adjustable panhard bar.

Ordered Monday around 9am.....was on the truck by Wednesday at 7pm. This thing is NICE. The powdercoat is absolutely perfect, it was shipped super fast, AND I got a bunch of extra toolbox/garage stickers......who doesnt like stickers. Anyways, Truck tracks nice and straight and its a nice little peice of hardware. Nice product and customer service from MASSIVE.

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by The Roadie » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:00 am

Thx for the pics and review. Next you need the Purple Cranium Spider to go with that. :cheers:
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by K STYLEZ » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:01 pm

MAN that looks GOOOOOOD!!! :safari:

Love it!
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by fishsticks » Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:38 am

The Roadie wrote:Thx for the pics and review. Next you need the Purple Cranium Spider to go with that. :cheers:



He needs to cut off that bent up piece of steel that's running along the bottom and limiting travel. :finger:
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