Panhard Bar Drop Bracket

[RONVOYO2]

I'm sorry I did not take before measurements since it was already established that we were offset to the passenger side. After the installation, and I'm still on stock tires right now with 1 1/2 spacers, I'm measuring 1/4 of an inch inside the wheel well on the passenger side and 3/16 outside the wheel well on the drivers side. Pretty close, just about an 1/8 of an inch out of whack. Just a hair less pull on the cross member should make all the difference.

[RONVOYO2]

Did anybody else notice that I was wrong. Closer to a 1/4 of an inch out of whack. I don't know why I was halving it. senior moment I guess.

[ErikSS]

Did anybody else notice that I was wrong. Closer to a 1/4 of an inch out of whack. I don't know why I was halving it. senior moment I guess.

3/16" and 1/4" are only 1/16" apart. So, you were closer the first time. lol

You mentioned inside and outside the wheel well though. Did you do that on purpose, or is it outside on both sides?

[RONVOYO2]

The face of the tire on the passenger side is actually recessed under the wheel well and the face of the tire on the drivers side is outside the wheel well. That's why I was saying the whole rear is a 1/4 of an inch out of whack.

[Cable810]

The face of the tire on the passenger side is actually recessed under the wheel well and the face of the tire on the drivers side is outside the wheel well. That's why I was saying the whole rear is a 1/4 of an inch out of whack.

Exactly whats up with mine.... it shifted everything to the left.

[ErikSS]

It's supposed to shift everything to the left. It is set up best for us with 3+ inches of rear lift. I have mine through 2" spacers and 1.75" from the Z71 springs. Moots got his through the Skyjacker springs.

[RONVOYO2]

I still think just a little less pull with the cross bar would make all the difference. I'm going to be busy for the next couple of weekends but soon as I get a chance I'm going to play with adjusting the length of the cross bar and centering up the rear end.

[v7guy]

Maybe I'm missing something, but how can the crossbar be pushing anything around?

There's a bolt through the original mount hole, then there's a bolt mounting the extension to the outside of the stock mount.


That support bar is there to help keep the stock mount from ripping off the frame since the mount is essentially just a big lever. With the 2 bolts on the mount extension in place it really shouldn't move at all and the support bar should just be there to help take the load from the panhard bar into the mount.


At the end of the day the only way you're going to perfectly center the rear is with an adjustable panhard rod.

[The Roadie]

The issue is not JUST centering at rest height, but attempting to equalize the shift as the suspension cycles up and down from resting height. A Panhard bar that's horizontal at rest optimizes this.

[ErikSS]

The issue is not JUST centering at rest height, but attempting to equalize the shift as the suspension cycles up and down from resting height. A Panhard bar that's horizontal at rest optimizes this.

Exactly. If we can build the mount and improve the bar we will probably have a better answer than JUST getting an adjustable bar.

[Trail X]

Maybe I'm missing something, but how can the crossbar be pushing anything around?

As the support bar is lowered down to meet the new bolt point for the panhard bar, the support bar's lower mounting hole moves towards the driver side, just due to the arc it travels.

That combined with flattening the panhard bar relative to the axle pushes the rear axle to the opposite side of vehicle center.

Sounds like it's pretty darn close though, if its only off by 1/4".

[RONVOYO2]

Yes it is close to being centered. That's why I figure if I just oblong the top hole in the cross bar by just a little that will relieve some of the sideways pull on the new bracket and let it fall into the perfect alignment. It's worth a try.

[DustinC1989]

So if the bar needs to be horizontal, could the drop bracket be longer? Or build a riser bracket for the other end of it?

[v7guy]

The issue is not JUST centering at rest height, but attempting to equalize the shift as the suspension cycles up and down from resting height. A Panhard bar that's horizontal at rest optimizes this.

Right, I understand that, but it was the primary comment by Ron that at ride height it was kicked slightly to the side a quarter inch. Outside of a Watts link on a live rear axle there's typically going to be some sort of arc through the travel.

Maybe I'm missing something, but how can the crossbar be pushing anything around?

As the support bar is lowered down to meet the new bolt point for the panhard bar, the support bar's lower mounting hole moves towards the driver side, just due to the arc it travels.

That combined with flattening the panhard bar relative to the axle pushes the rear axle to the opposite side of vehicle center.

Sounds like it's pretty darn close though, if its only off by 1/4".

I understand this too, but I'm saying when you bolt that extension on, the bolts should locate the mount in a precise location, how does the support bar move the mount extension that's bolted in? I assumed the support bar had a slightly ovaled hole and it was just a fluke that the mounting hole on it was ovaled enough that it would still fit at the different angle but these guys are saying the support bar is pushing the extension over. Is there just that much play in the bracket?

[markmc]

im thinking of slotting the lower hole and making it adjustable, very similar to how an adjustable electric motor mount base is designed..
That would let you fine tune the center..

[Darkrider_LS]

I was just looking at these last night ironically enough....

[salvo2002]

I'd like to get a Panhard bar drop bracket. Marks website says its out of stock. Not sure how long its been out of stock. I assume I am only going to be able to get one of these from Mark....true?

[Moots1288]

I'd like to get a Panhard bar drop bracket. Marks website says its out of stock. Not sure how long its been out of stock. I assume I am only going to be able to get one of these from Mark....true?

That is true, I'd say send him a PM

[salvo2002]

I PM'd Mark.

Unfortunately he discontinued it from his product line....

After reading this thread and http://forums.offroadtb.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=449, my take is the drop bracket is better than the adjustable bar since it will reduce the angle and allow the bar to be more horizontal at rest.

Anyone know of someone that makes a drop bracket?

[Cable810]

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