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winch carrier and rear Tire carrier

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by Karo » Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:50 pm

Okay time for some upgrades:
Removed grill guard and front bumper:
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and then drilled some holes in the metal front bumper:
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after that welded some metal and bolted it to the metal bumper:
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then installed the front plastic part of the bumper with some additional holes:
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after that installed the WAAG Front Guard back with some holes in it:
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and tried to test fit the winch:
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Finished:
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by bgwolfpack » Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:12 pm

I love the idea of placing the winch there but do you really think that is strong enough?

I will wait to see what Mike thinks. :cheers:
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by Karo » Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:16 pm

Mike´s comments are always welcome! :cheers:

The Carrier is bolted left an right direkt to the frame.
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by fishsticks » Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:56 pm

My winch plate uses the stock bumper bolt locations and is seam welded along the bottom to the stock impact bar. It's demonstrated its ability to do off-angle pulls just fine.

Welcome back, Karo. It's been awhile since I've seen you post here. :friday:

I'm watching your rear tire carrier fab closely. I already have drawings for a new improved one for my truck. I'm tired of the hitch mounted one.

Ran, I'll sell it to you cheap when I'm done with it. :)
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by Karo » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:04 pm

Haha yes a while back, new job, Fire in the engine bay of the TB, and so it´s going on..

Finally TB is fixed after fire from the Autogas Installation, cables where toast, new ones in and fixed many other things.
New 88 Springs & Bilsteins installed.
Actually have Cylinder 4 misfires, but it will be fixed next week and in the meantime some time for upgrading..
Sneakpreview:
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Need some FRESH AIR :excited:

Battery was replaced and I have found a loose bolt of the intake manifold:
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and one is completly away:
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So you can see i had to do many things. :cheers:
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by bgwolfpack » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:11 pm

fishsticks wrote:Ran, I'll sell it to you cheap when I'm done with it. :)

:cheers:

Why does cheap and my name always go together?
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by Trail X » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:25 pm

Welcome back Karo. Seems you're the only European member left!

I like the idea of the rear, but it could become a struggle to install the bumper cover. You may end up just cutting a slot in the bumper cover so it's easy to install.

Are you going with the press-in hinge? I've reviewed it some, and many people suggest at least welding the bottom of the press. The press also sounds challenging due to the warping of the welded hole, I'm sure you'll figure it out though.

I'm eager to see your air setup completed - I've got one of my own that I'm still tweaking.
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by fishsticks » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:28 pm

bgwolfpack wrote:
fishsticks wrote:Ran, I'll sell it to you cheap when I'm done with it. :)

:cheers:

Why does cheap and my name always go together?


Because you and I think alike. Maximum effect for minimum dollars invested. :mrgreen:
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by Karo » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:40 pm

JamesDowning wrote:Welcome back Karo. Seems you're the only European member left!

I like the idea of the rear, but it could become a struggle to install the bumper cover. You may end up just cutting a slot in the bumper cover so it's easy to install.

Are you going with the press-in hinge? I've reviewed it some, and many people suggest at least welding the bottom of the press. The press also sounds challenging due to the warping of the welded hole, I'm sure you'll figure it out though.

I'm eager to see your air setup completed - I've got one of my own that I'm still tweaking.


Hi James,

Tire Carrier is completly bolted to the frame, the Hinge is installed with the head to the bottom (reverse) and it is welded, so it could be screwed from above.
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I´ll take some detailed Photos later and post them, than it is clear how it is mounted..
Still much to do but i hope i´ll get all things done in 2 weeks.
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by Trail X » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:46 pm

Oh I see! So you'll have the crown bolt installed from the bottom. Very nice. The only issue I could see is with the seal being on top. Just make sure there's plenty of grease in there.

Do you plan to create a stop for the tire arm? Mine didn't have one for a while and it would often swing out of control. I now have mine limited to 90 degrees of motion and I like it much better.
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by bartonmd » Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:53 pm

About the winch mount... If it's 2" x 2" x 1/4" (50mm x 50mm x 6.4mm), then it's close to what they make receiver hitches out of, anyway... Would I double up a 15,000lb winch on it? Probably not... Would I run a single line from an 8k winch off of it? Sure...

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by Karo » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:29 pm

JamesDowning wrote:Oh I see! So you'll have the crown bolt installed from the bottom. Very nice. The only issue I could see is with the seal being on top. Just make sure there's plenty of grease in there.

Do you plan to create a stop for the tire arm? Mine didn't have one for a while and it would often swing out of control. I now have mine limited to 90 degrees of motion and I like it much better.


Yes stop for tire arm will be installed, not sure if i´ll do it with some kind like the redline Quicklift Kit.
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by Karo » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:07 pm

Not ready, but some progress pictures.

Without Bumper:

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Back:

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Side View Back:

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Side View:

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Front with the mounted Winch:

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In the middle of the grill the plug for the cable remote:

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That´s all so far. Hi-Jack must be mounted to the Tire Carrier, Winch isn´t wired, wireless remote and kill switch for the relay must be wired up. Hella Lamps must be installed on the Waag Guard and wired up, still much things to do, but next 2 Weeks in Holiday without Trailblazer..

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by mikepeters1983 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:12 pm

Ok so for the spare tire carrier in the back you would not happen to have some measurements? That is what I am looking for on my truck and would love to have some one over here fab one up for me.
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by janesy86 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:14 pm

Awesome work dude!! :cheers: Very well done, wish I lived near you and have you make one of the tire swing outs for me! Haha. That's pretty much what I've had in my head for a while..
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by Karo » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:18 pm

mikepeters1983 wrote:Ok so for the spare tire carrier in the back you would not happen to have some measurements? That is what I am looking for on my truck and would love to have some one over here fab one up for me.


PM was sent, had done some measurements, but things have changed alot, and in that progress i havent taken measurements for every step..
But i´ll do that and post them for you! I´ll take the measurements in metric, hope that doesn´t matter!?
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by Blackout » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:19 pm

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by mikepeters1983 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:24 pm

Karo wrote:
mikepeters1983 wrote:Ok so for the spare tire carrier in the back you would not happen to have some measurements? That is what I am looking for on my truck and would love to have some one over here fab one up for me.


PM was sent, had done some measurements, but things have changed alot, and in that progress i havent taken measurements for every step..
But i´ll do that and post them for you! I´ll take the measurements in metric, hope that doesn´t matter!?
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And thats why they have Google to change them to Inch's lol
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by Trail X » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:26 pm

Karo wrote:I´ll take the measurements in metric, hope that doesn´t matter!?

You mean the international system of measure? Noone uses that! :lol: That's actually all we use at work. :mrgreen:

And anyone that needs "measurements"... go out and take a tape measure to your rear bumper and sketch something up. Seriously, any decent fab guy should be able to connect the dots.

Sorry for the rant. Nice looking swingout Karo! How are you going to mount the fairlead for the winch?
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by mikepeters1983 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:30 pm

JamesDowning wrote:
Karo wrote:I´ll take the measurements in metric, hope that doesn´t matter!?

You mean the international system of measure? Noone uses that! :lol: That's actually all we use at work. :mrgreen:

And anyone that needs "measurements"... go out and take a tape measure to your rear bumper and sketch something up. Seriously, any decent fab guy should be able to connect the dots.

Sorry for the rant. Nice looking swingout Karo! How are you going to mount the fairlead for the winch?



I would JD but some of us are not as lucky to be sitting state side or new our truck right now to do that let alone even have a cold :cheers: . Some of us are not even close to our rides. But measurements is take can be sent to have it fabbed up while we are gone and ready for the person when we get back. But I am just saying you know
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