New to gearing whats my options?

by **HARDTRAILZ** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:47 pm

Cable810 wrote:We swap the rear and have to do the front as well for the gears? Thats what I'm understandin.

Correct if you want to be able to use 4x4

by **c bausch** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:52 pm

So a gt5 rear from a ext ? Does year of the trucks matter?

by **djthumper** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:57 pm

c bausch wrote:So a gt5 rear from a ext ? Does year of the trucks matter?

Yes the years matter. For anyone with a <2005 can go with any of the rear ends. Those of us with >2006, should have a 2006 or newer rear end to save a lot of other work.

by **HARDTRAILZ** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:00 pm

djthumper wrote:
c bausch wrote:So a gt5 rear from a ext ? Does year of the trucks matter?

Yes the years matter. For anyone with a <2005 can go with any of the rear ends. Those of us with >2006, should have a 2006 or newer rear end to save a lot of other work.

Which is why it was easier for me to find a stronger SS rear w 410s than an 06 or newer 8.6.

The older ones dont have the speed sensors on each side of rear for stabiltrak n abs.

by **Infamouz** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:33 pm

If I remember correctly even us 06-09 can use the 02-05 axle right? and all we would have to do is get a reflash on our pcm for the codes, right?

by **HARDTRAILZ** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:42 pm

What codes? You lose stabilitrak and abs.

by **navigator** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:49 pm

I think if you don't have the ABS sensors connected on the newer models it throws a code/ABS light.

by **navigator** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:50 pm

Kyle, on your SS rear, was it a direct bolt swap or did you have to do some mods to the driveshaft etc? I seem to recall you had to do a little more than a normal swap. Was that due to the different rear or to the amount of lift?

by **HARDTRAILZ** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:02 pm

I had to shorten the driveshaft even w my longer control arms.

by **navigator** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:15 pm

Was that due to the amount of lift or because the SS diff is longer?

by **HARDTRAILZ** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:29 pm

Diff is that much bigger.

by **navigator** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:44 pm

ok, good info.

by **06MidnightBlue** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:33 pm

Cable810 wrote:We swap the rear and have to do the front as well for the gears? Thats what I'm understandin.

If you swap only the rear and don't re-gear the front, say goodbye to your transfer case and all associated parts.

by **c bausch** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:52 pm

Will the front blow by itself ? Or when you engage the 4wd?

by **06MidnightBlue** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:05 pm

I can't tell you much about the mechanics of it. But what I can tell you is that a friend of mine did that in his 4Runner. The second he put it into drive, pop goes his front u-joints and something in his T-case snapped too.

Long story short: $2150 in repairs. He had to replace the T-case

by **HARDTRAILZ** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:07 pm

I had front 373 and rear 410 for a few weeks. Even couple hundred highway miles. Its not a problem unless you engage 4x4.

by **fishsticks** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:34 pm

HARDTRAILZ wrote:I had front 373 and rear 410 for a few weeks. Even couple hundred highway miles. Its not a problem unless you engage 4x4.

x2

by **c bausch** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:52 pm

Hardtrails, what kind of rear did you have back then?

by **HARDTRAILZ** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:58 pm

I had the 3.73 8.0 then went to 4.10 9.5.

by **06MidnightBlue** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:39 am

If you look at the build thread for it though, it's quite a project.

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