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by bartonmd » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:21 pm

JamesDowning wrote:That was why I was thinking low range. Nearly 1/3 the stress on the pawl. Still could be too much though.


Yeah. It would likely handle it fine, but that's something really expensive to break if you just don't NEED to be doing it like that...

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by Regulator1175 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:25 pm

JamesDowning wrote:A couple things came to mind while watching that video, the first was:

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As Mike has said, I am trying different lines and different approaches. I did make it out on my own power the last time, it just took a lot of stacking. I wanted to give it another shot this trip. I have stood at the top and watched Kyle come up without any issues, so I know it is doable. As I have said many many times, I am learning. This is an entirely new culture to me, I have always been a speed bump dragger. While I don't want to break shit while trying, I still want to try and push my limits and try to learn from it.

JamesDowning wrote:Another is the inner and outer circle inspections and properly assessing a situation:
http://www.offroadtb.com/articles/vehic ... -planning/
It's a lesson to all of us to check under the center of the vehicle, not just look at the tires.


I did get out a couple times, as seen in the video, wanting to look over what was going on and see where my issues were. I will admit that one of the younger guys that was with me was saying that it looked like I was getting hung up on the rear end. I took that to mean the control arms because that is what it felt like in the seat. I did tell him that Mike was the spotter and that I needed to follow his direction. (Not trying to throw you under the bus here Mike, just meant that I was trying to tell him that there should only be one person in control and talking to the driver.)

JamesDowning wrote:Last - NEVER help a winch with your vehicle's own power. It doesn't help anything, and only puts more strain on the winch in the form of impulse loads. If anything, try to prevent slack on the cable by applying some brakes when necessary. Only ever rev an engine up to assist with providing more wattage to the winch. Never be in a forward or reverse gear.


Again, I am learning. I hope I didn't screw anything up Mike. This is the first time I have been on either end of a winch line and honestly didn't know any better. I thought I was helping.

JamesDowning wrote:Regulator - most likely your rear diff/axle is ok. Your drive shaft was the fuse there, and I would doubt there was further damage internal to the axle. I would also assume your front diff is ok (however I would likely suspect that the disconnect is blown or the intermediate shaft is stripped).


I just got the truck back drivable yesterday. I swapped out the rear end, new (to me) drive shaft, and new U-joints. I have driven it a bit today with the half shafts still in place and can hear rattling / grinding in the front diff. There is also a decent puddle of 75-90 under the truck. (Yes it is 75-90, it is a rather distinctive smell) There was no forward power to the front wheels. Then I unloaded the truck at the house there was power in reverse but I could feel it slipping. Tomorrow morning the tires are coming off and the half shafts are coming out. Hopefully I will have a better idea where the oil is coming from.
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by Trail X » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:48 am

Wasn't trying to chastise you or anything, just throwing out my thoughts and observations.

Lets us know what the root failure was in the diff. It sounds like a new failure mode that we haven't seen before.
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by Regulator1175 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:02 pm

JamesDowning wrote:Wasn't trying to chastise you or anything, just throwing out my thoughts and observations.

Lets us know what the root failure was in the diff. It sounds like a new failure mode that we haven't seen before.


I appreciate everyone's thoughts and observations. I just hope that I can learn from them.

I don't expect that the front diff is going to get torn down for a while. I am hoping to overhaul the engine/diff that is on the stand in my garage and drop them in together. I just need to find the money for the overhaul.
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