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by HARDTRAILZ » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:23 am

Not sure why you want the spider diff cover. I think it is an unneeded piece. It doesnt protect anything but backing into a rock.
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by Zero » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:28 am

lol for exactly that reason. I wouldnt want something as stupid as backing up into a rock to ruin my day. Although I would much rather a thick steel version of our diff cover.
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by Gordinho80 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:44 am

Zero wrote:lol for exactly that reason. I wouldnt want something as stupid as backing up into a rock to ruin my day. Although I would much rather a thick steel version of our diff cover.

Perhaps that could be the next thing one of our talented vendors produces for us... :idea:
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by HARDTRAILZ » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:55 am

I guess it is not really totally unneeded, but i would rather have a thicker cover as well. I should just be happy someone made something for us.
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by The Roadie » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:05 am

HARDTRAILZ wrote:Not sure why you want the spider diff cover. I think it is an unneeded piece. It doesnt protect anything but backing into a rock.
Exactly! Teebes and I saved a huge amount of time on the Rubicon not having to spot each other's rears so much. With two spotters it would have been doable, but slower. Even with our tight turning radius, there are a LOT of places on these trails where it's tight side to side with trees, and you sometimes don't get a well-placed rock to use as a pivot, so there's a lot of 3-4 point turns for our relatively large wheelbase. And the surface is totally lumpy with 8-16" water-smoothed rocks. SO having the spider means if we need spotting, the spotter doesn't have to constantly run front/back and worry about the diff. The cover is so thin that ANY contact with a rock while backing up would have been fatal.

It's like a pimp curb feeler for the diff. Not absolutely necessary, but saves you getting out all the time to look. :safe:

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by HARDTRAILZ » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:09 am

Alright...you got me. I will order one. I was playing in stuff just like that and didnot even bother to worry about the rear cover since the housing takes most of the abuse, but for a bit of extra protection would be cheap insurance.
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by fishsticks » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:09 pm

My diff cover has a couple scars from rocks. I've needed to get on this as well.
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by MrSmithsTB » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:52 pm

Unless someone was so ambitious as to take a spare cover and fab up a replacement with steel..
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by Gordinho80 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:54 pm

:hijack:

Guys, lets not forget what this thread is about... back on topic please.
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by teebes » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:38 am

So how's the pricing coming along for a production run? I'd be interested in prices that include a forged JJ per link, too!

Kyle - How'd everything feel furing your recent outing? Notice anything different with the on-road performance (I'd hope not since both sides of the arms are bushings)?

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by HARDTRAILZ » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:36 am

teebes wrote:So how's the pricing coming along for a production run? I'd be interested in prices that include a forged JJ per link, too!

Kyle - How'd everything feel furing your recent outing? Notice anything different with the on-road performance (I'd hope not since both sides of the arms are bushings)?

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No different onroad, and did not feel different off, but I need to wash the mud off to see if it looks like I got anything to hit.
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by gotricebih » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:50 am

I'm still looking for a flex joint that will work on our trucks. I haven't been able to find one that is the right mounting width.

I have a few places I need to call and see if they needs anything I can use. From the looks of things I should be able to make the control arms with flex joints for about 100 bucks more for a set.

teebes wrote:So how's the pricing coming along for a production run? I'd be interested in prices that include a forged JJ per link, too!

Kyle - How'd everything feel furing your recent outing? Notice anything different with the on-road performance (I'd hope not since both sides of the arms are bushings)?

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by teebes » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:22 pm

How wide are our mounts? I thought the 2" JJ's might work, but maybe that measurement doesn't include the misalignment spacers??
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by gotricebih » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:12 pm

They are a little over 2.25". I haven't been able to find anything except 2", 2.375", and 2.625".

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teebes wrote:How wide are our mounts? I thought the 2" JJ's might work, but maybe that measurement doesn't include the misalignment spacers??
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by Trail X » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:14 pm

Isn't that what washers are for? :happy whip:
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by fishsticks » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:16 pm

Maybe use washers to take up the space? We already do that with our rear shocks.
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by gotricebih » Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:08 pm

I can make spacers so there would be no need to use washers. I'm just looking for a safer alternative.
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by OregTrailBlazin » Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:55 pm

gotricebih wrote:I can make spacers so there would be no need to use washers. I'm just looking for a safer alternative.

Throw the miss-alignment spacers off the 2.375 in a lathe and take of 0.0625 off each one... That would give you the 2.25" your looking for..
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by gotricebih » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:10 pm

Those joints that I've found also have the wrong size bolt hole. I would have to drill all of them out from 12mm to 14mm and then turn them down to the right length.

That's a lot of extra fab work...

I may have to do that if I can't find one with the right width.
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by teebes » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:38 pm

gotricebih wrote:Those joints that I've found also have the wrong size bolt hole. I would have to drill all of them out from 12mm to 14mm and then turn them down to the right length.

That's a lot of extra fab work...

I may have to do that if I can't find one with the right width.


Argh.. Which joints where you looking at?
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