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by Trailblazin Ahead » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:49 am

Besides exhaust PCM tune CAI. Does anybody offer cams, bigger throttle body or etc. I want more to the 4200 vortex than what a tune exhaust headers and CAI can do. Also if y'all have experience with such please let me know what your running.
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by v7guy » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:45 am

http://www.vortec4200.com/forum1/

generally speaking, we don't bother. The headers move your torque up the power band, most of the CAI stuff generally filter worse and it can can be an issue in the dust we find ourselves in. There are a decent number of guys that have hotrodded these motors (you'll find em in the link above) but they don't use em like most of us do here.
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by Trailblazin Ahead » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:57 pm

OK thanks I don't want to hotrod just wanted a little more out of the motor without going crazy. I'll just stick to the tune CAI and exhaust and call it good thanks for the info
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by Jrgunn5150 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:23 pm

A simple tune made a world of difference on mine. The ECU was really reigning in the fun. ALthough right after I did it, we've been hit with about 15" of snow this week, and I kind of miss my stabilitrac and torque limiting lol
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by HARDTRAILZ » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:34 pm

Jrgunn5150 wrote:A simple tune made a world of difference on mine. The ECU was really reigning in the fun. ALthough right after I did it, we've been hit with about 15" of snow this week, and I kind of miss my stabilitrac and torque limiting lol



Why would your tune affect Stabilitrac? My traction control has always functioned well with my tuning and removal of torque limiting.
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by Jrgunn5150 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:42 pm

My Stabilitrac is just not working correctly, and I don't care enough to fix the ECBM. Combined with the shift kit and firmness changes and the torque limiting being disabled, it get's a little squirrelly in the snow
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by redmaro42 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:03 pm

Jrgunn5150 wrote:My Stabilitrac is just not working correctly, and I don't care enough to fix the ECBM. Combined with the shift kit and firmness changes and the torque limiting being disabled, it get's a little squirrelly in the snow


time for some snow tires or move away from the lakeshore and get closer to GR to run from the lake effect snow lol
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by Jrgunn5150 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:13 pm

I have some Duratracs ready to go on, probably happen in the spring hahahaha. I just have to use a little sense, or 4x4 lol.
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by flap00 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:12 am

Does an average PCM tune generally remove the torque limiting, or is that a separate procedure of another sort?
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by Trailblazin Ahead » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:46 am

I'm gonna have the neens tune my PCM. Once I get the funds again.
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by v7guy » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:52 am

It's a checklist generally, you check off the things you want done and they do it. Pretty common to have the torque limiting removed though.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:13 am

Jrgunn5150 wrote:My Stabilitrac is just not working correctly, and I don't care enough to fix the ECBM. Combined with the shift kit and firmness changes and the torque limiting being disabled, it get's a little squirrelly in the snow

Guess I don't get the lack of maintainence/repair.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:15 am

flap00 wrote:Does an average PCM tune generally remove the torque limiting, or is that a separate procedure of another sort?


Its a choice. I would remove part or all depending in your intentions.
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by Jrgunn5150 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:52 am

HARDTRAILZ wrote:
Jrgunn5150 wrote:My Stabilitrac is just not working correctly, and I don't care enough to fix the ECBM. Combined with the shift kit and firmness changes and the torque limiting being disabled, it get's a little squirrelly in the snow

Guess I don't get the lack of maintainence/repair.


Weird, I don't get spending 700-1200 on a part that serves a function I don't particularly care about.
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by flap00 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:00 pm

The only things I see on my PCM of NC order sheet that are similar to "torque limiting", are...
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by Jrgunn5150 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:11 pm

flap00 wrote:The only things I see on my PCM of NC order sheet that are similar to "torque limiting", are...
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I guess call and ask? All it really does as far as I know is keep the throttle open on shifts. I could be way wrong though, the only other thing I've ever tuned are Mustangs.
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by flap00 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:52 pm

Ok, I did call and ask. (I had to call there today anyway regarding returning my core.)
According to them, the "rev limiter" is left there, because obviously, you're better off not being able to rev your engine higher than say 7,000 or so...wherever it's set from the factory. The speed limiter is generally removed. And, the torque management is not exactly a cut & dry "torque limiter". There are several factors, and they generally take out about 50%-75% of it.
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by Jrgunn5150 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:04 pm

Correct, in EFI LIve, I saw options from 1-4. I just took mine out, although I don't do much WOT shifting, or any really. I'd imagine it might be helpful in mud or a hillclimb.
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by Trailblazin Ahead » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:01 am

How'd you tune the PCM. Have an 05 trailblazer ls vortec 4200 3.42 no g80
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by Jrgunn5150 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:02 am

Trailblazin Ahead wrote:How'd you tune the PCM. Have an 05 trailblazer ls vortec 4200 3.42 no g80


Me? I have a friend with a pretty narly Duramax, and he has EFIlive, I just bought another license for 125 and went to town. For now I haven't done much besides turn things off and change limiters and shift points. I haven't messed with fuel or timing.

You can buy a mail order tune and a flashscan from a number of places. Or do what seems to be popular here and on GMTnation, buy a pre-tuned ECM from PCM For Less or whoever you like, pay a core charge, and swap it in.
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