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Bedliner the entire floorboard front to back?

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by HARDTRAILZ » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:06 pm

Dynamat
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by navigator » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:50 am

yup, I was kind of thinking that name but I wasn't sure.
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by dvanbramer88 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:50 am

HARDTRAILZ wrote:I would ne concerned with wiring and such that runs under the carpet. How much wiring do have hidden under there?


Somewhere between not much and none. The harness goes through the door sills. The power seats get a wire or two from under the carpet.
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by steveroche » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:26 pm

Would the Bed liner work ontop of dynamat? Maybe put the dynamat down first to get the sound deadening taken care of and then cover it in a thick coat of whatever you use for Bedliner. The only thing is I don't really know if the liner would adhere well enough to the dynamat to last...
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by fishsticks » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:33 pm

There are several products out there similar to Dynamat that cost about 20%. Many are sold as roof/window flashing products. I got a butyl based product at Home Depot and did the floor, doors, and rear wall of the cab in my Toyota. I spent less doing the entire cab with that than I would have on one box of Dynamat.

Bedliner won't stick to Dynamat (or others) very well because it's flexible. Bedliner doesn't like to flex.

I can say from experience that Herculiner will only get tacky/flexible when you weld next to it. It stays fine otherwise.
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by navigator » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:16 pm

I did a quick search on jeepforum and it looks like most use the dynamat/peel and seal with carpet.
I can't find any that use it with the bedliner coatings.

Most say the coatings provide a lot of sound deadening as well.
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by steveroche » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:01 pm

I would think that something as heavy as Herculiner would provide some good sound deadening...better than carpet at least because it is rubbery and thicker. Question is just how much more?
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by fishsticks » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:34 pm

steveroche wrote:I would think that something as heavy as Herculiner would provide some good sound deadening...better than carpet at least because it is rubbery and thicker. Question is just how much more?



Peel n Seal is goes on much thicker than Herculiner unless you put about 4 layers down. I doubled it up on mine and it's around 3/16" thick.
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by steveroche » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:40 pm

That's probably the best bet then, maybe peel and seal with carpeting in the main visible areas?
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by navigator » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:44 pm

I think Rory is more interested in the ease of cleaning the bedliner vs carpet due to beach sand, pets?, wet fishing gear over the noise factor.
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by NC_IslandRunner » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:58 pm

navigator wrote:I think Rory is more interested in the ease of cleaning the bedliner vs carpet due to beach sand, pets?, wet fishing gear over the noise factor.


That is correct, It's already loud anyway with the GtuardDogs so it won't hurt nothing. Looking like I'll need to make a wood piece for the trim at the rear hatch cause there is a 1" thick foam mat that it reat on and will not seat right with out something to hold the trim up.
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by NC_IslandRunner » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:41 pm

Took the seats out again today and it was looking good with the wiring situation until I got to the floorboard of the rear seats, I was wondering where all the wires from the BCM ran. Well they run in the floor right behind the drivers seat and under the center console. Thinks a rubber pad covering it will work just screw it to the floor and should not have any problems with the bedliner. It's not like carpet offer a lot of protection anyway so the rubber should actually protect it more.

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more pics from rear just need to re-route the taillight wires above the tire humps to hide them.
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by navigator » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:18 am

I've never done it but I would expect that as long as you have enough surface on either side of the wires to get good adhesion it should stay in place pretty well as long as it isn't a high traffic area.
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by NC_IslandRunner » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:17 pm

navigator wrote:I've never done it but I would expect that as long as you have enough surface on either side of the wires to get good adhesion it should stay in place pretty well as long as it isn't a high traffic area.

I'm gonna use self tapping metal screws to hold the rubber pad down, this should protect wires as good or better than the carpet alone did.
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by fishsticks » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:46 am

NC_IslandRunner wrote:
navigator wrote:I've never done it but I would expect that as long as you have enough surface on either side of the wires to get good adhesion it should stay in place pretty well as long as it isn't a high traffic area.

I'm gonna use self tapping metal screws to hold the rubber pad down, this should protect wires as good or better than the carpet alone did.



Remember to prime the penetrations from the bottom so the sheet metal doesn't rust out.
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by NC_IslandRunner » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:14 pm

Got the bedliner in.
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by Mudwheelin » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:46 pm

Sweet! That looks great man. Ill be doing the same thing shortly.
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by TSAdventurez » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:53 pm

Looks sick man
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by NC_IslandRunner » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:03 am

Thanks, I can't wait to get the seats and trim back in tomorrow.
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by NC_IslandRunner » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:41 am

I used Rust-oleum bedliner, and don't buy it at the autoparts stores. I thought $60 was a good price until I saw it at wal-mart for $44, Exact same can.
Said to brush trim areas first then roll on but once I started to brushing I liked the look and how it was going on so I just brushed the whole thing with a 3" brush, Saved $12 by not using application kit. Surprisingly it only took one gal to coat the whole cab twice with enough to do a third coating in the cargo area.

Have not covered wires yet, going to put seats back in to see how much needs covering. Also thought it could be very difficult to prime/seal underside of holes from the metal screws so just going to use a epoxy or something to hold rubber over wires. Doesn't look like much will be showing anyway, just in the center of the rear floorboard area and not a whole lot of foot traffic back there anyway.
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