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Rough idle after disconnecting battery

Something not working right?

by bhoglan » Tue May 24, 2016 9:44 pm

Hi Folks, it's me again.

So, this weekend I replaced my driver's side CV Axle as well as my Thermostat. Aside from learning that GM's alternator placement engineer is a sadist, I ran into some strange behavior when we were done.

The battery was disconnected so I didn't kill myself on the alternator. When I reattached the battery and started the truck, it had a rough/unstable idle that would dip down to almost dying and then jump back up. This happened both times (I had to rip it all apart again and replace the O-ring because the thermostat ate the first one when I torqued it down). The second time the truck actually died a few times. Both times it seemed to correct itself once the engine was well up to temperature.

Now, I assume that when the ECU loses power, it'll have to relearn certain values from the engine as it heats up. I'm not terribly familiar with ECU designs but I figured that a lot of the engine management values would be on non-volatile storage so they don't disappear when power is pulled. The alternative, I guess, would be for the ECU to have a battery inside it to keep the values when main power is pulled.

So, my question: Is it normal for a TB to act like a jerk after the battery has been pulled. If not, does the ECU have its own battery that I need to check? If not, what are your guesses?


Thanks!
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by bartonmd » Tue May 24, 2016 10:02 pm

Idle relearn. Normal.
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by v7guy » Wed May 25, 2016 2:06 am

Yup, normal
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by PROSPHOTO » Wed May 25, 2016 2:25 am

I would speculate that the idle relearn is more noticeable the dirtier the throttle body and IAC motor are... Something that needs to be cleaned routinely on these vehicles.
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by v7guy » Wed May 25, 2016 3:53 am

There is no idle air control motor on the I6, fortunately cleaning those things are behind us!
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by PROSPHOTO » Wed May 25, 2016 4:01 am

My bad, the butterfly itself acts as the IAC, carbon build up around the edges where they contact the inside of the TB would yield the same symptom
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by bhoglan » Wed May 25, 2016 4:52 pm

Ok thanks for the advice. How do you folks clean your TB's? Are we talking a seafoam kind of thing?
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by Rickalicka18 » Wed May 25, 2016 6:22 pm

Its been done before. Check youtube for it. I believe some guy did a tutorial on it using his trailblazer.

As for other ways to clean, that's all I have heard of for cleaning carbon build up
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by TBYODA » Wed May 25, 2016 10:27 pm

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