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Upper & Lower Control Arm discussion

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by HARDTRAILZ » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:12 pm

My tires seem to wear a bit more on the outside edge even after alignment, which showed everything in spec.
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by Trail X » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:24 pm

True, I think that's normal for any steering tires.
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by MrSmithsTB » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:28 pm

:Iagree: That will happen regardless, since the outer edge takes the brunt of every turn.
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by fishsticks » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:01 pm

I got to hang around while my truck was being aligned. I'm pretty sure my bolts were pushed inwards most of the way to get it true.

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by Zero » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:40 pm

i will try and find my alignment printouts from 2 weeks ago for comparison.
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by Hatchet669 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:46 pm

MrSmithsTB wrote:Rears should be a simple thing to fabricate, since the geometry is easier to accommodate. But about the front, has anyone seriously looked at the DJM arms sold for lowered trailvoys?? As intended, they will correct the angle for lowering in excess of 2". Inverted and flipped, they should do the same thing for lifts in excess of 2". Since they are made for out platform, there is really nothing more to do than bolt them up.

Check out this thread on the OS. This is what they looked like on a vehicle lowerwed 2", with the arms installed upside down and on the wrong side. No picture that setup 5" higher. Ball joint issue corrected.
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i read the thread didnt see this discussed anymore...

they will not work on our lifted trucks... i checked them out when Chevy TB Luver was putting his on... the tab is not in the center of the loop.. it is offset so if u turn it upside and flip it will not line up... and also if u turn it upside down u will loose height since the tab will be on the top of the bar...
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by fishsticks » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:53 pm

Hatchet669 wrote:i read the thread didnt see this discussed anymore...

they will not work on our lifted trucks... i checked them out when Chevy TB Luver was putting his on... the tab is not in the center of the loop.. it is offset so if u turn it upside and flip it will not line up... and also if u turn it upside down u will loose height since the tab will be on the top of the bar...



Swapping right to left fixes this.
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by Hatchet669 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:56 pm

fishsticks wrote:
Hatchet669 wrote:i read the thread didnt see this discussed anymore...

they will not work on our lifted trucks... i checked them out when Chevy TB Luver was putting his on... the tab is not in the center of the loop.. it is offset so if u turn it upside and flip it will not line up... and also if u turn it upside down u will loose height since the tab will be on the top of the bar...



Swapping right to left fixes this.

yea sorry the offset part shouldnt have been put in.. but the tab is still gunna be higher up as it would be on top of the bar... so u wont gain anything cept an aftermarket bar...
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by fishsticks » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:05 pm

Hatchet669 wrote:yea sorry the offset part shouldnt have been put in.. but the tab is still gunna be higher up as it would be on top of the bar... so u wont gain anything cept an aftermarket bar...



Our front height is controlled by the length of the strut assembly... getting these UCAs would be primarily to take stress off the upper ball joint. Then we could possibly make the strut assembly longer to get more lift.
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by Hatchet669 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:06 pm

well then just forget everything i said... someone go and try it..
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by MrSmithsTB » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:18 am

fishsticks wrote:
Hatchet669 wrote:yea sorry the offset part shouldnt have been put in.. but the tab is still gunna be higher up as it would be on top of the bar... so u wont gain anything cept an aftermarket bar...



Our front height is controlled by the length of the strut assembly... getting these UCAs would be primarily to take stress off the upper ball joint. Then we could possibly make the strut assembly longer to get more lift.



Bingo! That would enable the dreaded stacking of lift kits. Use the BDS stacked with the readylift(outside of the assembly). It's been established that the half shafts can take that much lift. As long as the tie rods can take the stress, it's all good. With the additional lift and steeper angle on the UCA, these DJM arms may work with having to be modified.
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