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by moose1 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:53 pm

So, I had to re-install my rear sway bar to get my trailer to track. It was all over the place without it. I have a 5x10 utility trailer that I haul quads and such but never too much weight. I'm using a 6" drop receiver and once i installed the sway bar all was good. Never had any issues pulling the trailer with any vehicle. Does anyone have issues with pulling trailers without the sway bar? or have any advise on where I'm going wrong. I'd like to get rid of the sway bar for good.
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by ErikSS » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:53 pm

I have never had an issue without my rear sway bar and pulling a trailer. Infact, I've pulled it off the truck now. It looks good in the pic, but I'd still encourage you to look at the tongue weight of the trailer. If you continue to have an issue, you could try the stiffer Z71 springs. (sorry if you have them and I missed that)
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by v7guy » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:28 pm

The envoy on 33s and no swaybars seemed fine, the trailer was about 1000lbs unloaded and wandered a bit above 55mph so I had to keep it slow, loaded up with about 2500lbs it settled down and was happy at 65-70mph
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by moose1 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:34 pm

thanks. just as I thought, I'm a dumb a$$. think I will try and find a 8" drop to increase tongue weight. the rear end doesn't seem to squat at all with the skyjacker's.
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by KingBird » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:47 pm

I've found that with too little tongue weight, things get dangerous QUICK!

We've got a Vermeer trencher/front bucket that has almost killed a few of our sparkys because they didn't load it far enough forward on the trailer. All of our trucks are 3/4 ton and have rear swaybars. That's why I didn't chime in sooner.

I've found that with the death sway, neutral and using only the trailer brakes gets everything back into control so that we can pull over and adjust the load.

Funny story, I scared the shit out of one of our new apprentices when we had a trailer start fishtailing on a curve. He practically worshipped me afterward because I seemed so calm and in control when, in all actuality, I was screaming, "OH SHIT, OH SHIT, OH SHIT!" in my head. :lol:
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by bartonmd » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:28 pm

I've hauled 6000-6500lb car trailers without a rear sway bar, no problems. Also hauled 4000lbs of firewood in my 5x8 utility trailer with no problems. However, I'm always careful to have enough tongue weight, as this vehicle, being so short and narrow, is MUCH more prone to wagging the dog problems than a longer truck.

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by ErikSS » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:09 am

The drop of the hitch should be for leveling the trailer, not for tongue weight. It could make a very small difference, but there must be a better way to move the weight. You could get a couple guys to try to lift the tongue with the trailer loaded. If it's much heavier loaded than unloaded you should be ok. You could also try loading the quad backwards.
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by navigator » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:09 pm

I still run my sway bars but I would also put one in the bucket for too little tongue weight.
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by HARDTRAILZ » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:38 am

I dont see any issues with any of our trailers without swaybar out back.
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by moose1 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:11 pm

I'll have to play around with it. Thanks for the input.
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