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by TBYODA » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:24 pm

mikekey wrote:Just from experience the Thermoelectric Coolers have one HUGE disadvantage, they only cool to about 30 deg below outside temperature. So, if it is 70 degrees the cooler will cool to about 40 degrees, nice. But, if it is hot outside, say 90 degrees or so, it sucks! Coleman is claiming theirs cools to 40 but in experience I've found they perform worse than advertised in hotter climates. JorDanee and I have one, we had no problems with it at Tecore, but during our trip out West we had problems with it keeping things cool in the hotter climates and still had to resort to putting ice in it. It could barely keep up during all of Utah and Arizona. It was fine in the cooler climate of CO. And hey, WE USE A/C, it still had problems.

Plus they are a HUGE drain on the electrical system compared to an ARB or Engel. Thermoelectric units draw a large amount of current (4.6 Amps). Most units do not have the ability to freeze, or maintain a steady internal refrigerated temperature. Consequently they take many hours to cool a warm bottle of water.

Comparable, an Engel draws 2.1 amps of power. There is a reason for the cost.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/equipme ... /index.php

You can search expo forums for more details. If you were weekend camping, I'd say follow Roberts advice. But you're going longer term with variable climates, I'd say it's worth the money in the long run. You've been out west, when you get out there you might not want to run into town every week to get ice.


Mike I did not think about the hotter climates and I can see the disadvantage. I will have to remember that if I every go out west. I was only going by my resent experience. Maybe that is why those Cl posts are so cheap. :lol:

Bacon Just go to the hot states during the winter. :mrgreen: :lol:
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by mikekey » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:28 pm

Our TECORE Trip and in Colorado where it was cooler it worked fine mostly. But here in FL and on our trip out west, it couldn't keep pace. Especially everytime the car was off. Got to remember, if it's 90 outside and you go hike around and leave it in your truck, how hot will it be inside your truck? Even with the windows down, there is no way around the effects and how it will perform. If you just want to keep beer cool, fine. But I wouldn't trust it to things that need to be chilled because they'll spoil fast. But you can midgate a bunch of that be food choices too.

Hell, PB&J, Ramon Noodles, canned beans and oatmeal you don't need a fridge/cooler, lol.
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by RyansTBLS » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:41 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/travel/realtravel ... 58862.html

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by DirtyBacon04 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:45 pm

that was a pretty good story.
Hey, no need to crack that whip on me. Im making steps towards it. within 4 days, i got my front differential put in and my locker installed. 2 big check boxes on my list are now crossed off. And just 2 weeks ago, i got my winch.

Im makin my way! Roof top tent is next on the list!!
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by mikekey » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:27 pm

DirtyBacon04 wrote:that was a pretty good story.
Hey, no need to crack that whip on me. Im making steps towards it. within 4 days, i got my front differential put in and my locker installed. 2 big check boxes on my list are now crossed off. And just 2 weeks ago, i got my winch.

Im makin my way! Roof top tent is next on the list!!


Time for :cheers:
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by RyansTBLS » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:17 pm

mikekey wrote:
DirtyBacon04 wrote:that was a pretty good story.
Hey, no need to crack that whip on me. Im making steps towards it. within 4 days, i got my front differential put in and my locker installed. 2 big check boxes on my list are now crossed off. And just 2 weeks ago, i got my winch.

Im makin my way! Roof top tent is next on the list!!


Time for :cheers:

:Iagree: Well done on diff and locker, and thanks for the write-ups :cheers:
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by RyansTBLS » Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:59 pm

https://www.socalteardrops.com/gallery.php?g=12

They're adorable! :camping: Probably out of your price range, but maybe not.
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by Bacnbit » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:31 pm

RyansTBLS wrote:https://www.socalteardrops.com/gallery.php?g=12

They're adorable! :camping: Probably out of your price range, but maybe not.


Pretty cool little unit. They are built about 20 minutes from me.
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by DirtyBacon04 » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:02 pm

yea, I've looked into those. I decided that a trailer, as nice as it would be, won't be a part of my adventure. At least not at first. If I later decide to make it a more long term trip, then a trailer is more logical.
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by Bacnbit » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:55 pm

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You need an old M416 Wagon I think one of those would be perfect for an off road trailer. This ones on CL up here by me.
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by RyansTBLS » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:15 pm

Found you a cooler! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ry ... nav_search

Of course they forget to state the obvious like how long does it keep anything cold, but hey you'll be one of a few with a blender out camping! :chef:
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by DirtyBacon04 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:07 am

Uhmmm. Well.... thanks for thinking of me, i guess... :coffee:


While we're on the topic of outrageous coolers... Can someone explain why a ~40 qt Yeti cooler goes for $300?! Whats so special about them?
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by TBYODA » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:59 am

DirtyBacon04 wrote:Uhmmm. Well.... thanks for thinking of me, i guess... :coffee:


While we're on the topic of outrageous coolers... Can someone explain why a ~40 qt Yeti cooler goes for $300?! Whats so special about them?

Yea there crazy $$ but from there site. http://yeticoolers.com/about-yeti/our-t ... insulation

"Our polyurethane insulating foam has an R‐Value of 7 per inch of thickness, the perfect blend of thermal performance and structural integrity. Most coolers don’t insulate the lid. We use up to 3 inches of foam to minimize air exchange and to make the lid strong enough to stand on. We pressure-inject up to 2 inches of polyurethane foam into every square inch of the body of our coolers."
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by navigator » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:05 am

my son bought one, it is an awesome cooler but I expect you are paying a lot for name/marketing.
I'm unsure how long it will keep ice when you are camping.

I have one of those coleman "keeps ice 5 days" coolers on wheels, it is pretty stout and does pretty well. I think the key is if you are in them a lot in the heat they are going to use ice.

I expect if you look you can find a cooler in line with a yeti for less money.
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by DirtyBacon04 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:01 pm

TBYODA wrote:
DirtyBacon04 wrote:Uhmmm. Well.... thanks for thinking of me, i guess... :coffee:


While we're on the topic of outrageous coolers... Can someone explain why a ~40 qt Yeti cooler goes for $300?! Whats so special about them?

Yea there crazy $$ but from there site. http://yeticoolers.com/about-yeti/our-t ... insulation

"Our polyurethane insulating foam has an R‐Value of 7 per inch of thickness, the perfect blend of thermal performance and structural integrity. Most coolers don’t insulate the lid. We use up to 3 inches of foam to minimize air exchange and to make the lid strong enough to stand on. We pressure-inject up to 2 inches of polyurethane foam into every square inch of the body of our coolers."



Translation: "Regular coolers just keep shit cold. Our YETI coolers keep shit cold, only ours does it at 5x the weight and 10x the price!!"

Reminds me of a news story about an app called "I'm Rich" it doesn't do anything, but costs $99.99
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by RyansTBLS » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:57 pm



eep! look at the shipping cost! :zombie:
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by mikekey » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:07 pm

Any closer to this yet?
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by DirtyBacon04 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:03 pm

Date has been set!!!

Whenever the first day of next years FL Keys Lobster trip is, will be my departure date! So most likely Aug 4-5, 2015.
Gettin nervous! My savings should be right where I want them, now the challenge is getting the truck ready and building the experience I'll need!
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by Trail X » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:45 pm

It will never be completely ready. Just try to lay out a realistic goal for the truck and do it.
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